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Old 06-16-2008, 12:55 PM
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I didn't say I don't take medicines, Ferd, did I? I'm just saying you can't disconnect modern day pharmaceuticals from the pursuit of medicinal cures back when the medicine men and witch doctors were the ones coming up with cures. You would only be fooling yourself to say otherwise, Bro. Like I said, I don't know why the translators chose witchcraft as how they translated that word or how it got lumped in with all them other evils, but there's no sense in trying to deny it means what it means.
and I am saying yes you can...

This is like trying to explain icing in Hockey to my wife.
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:59 PM
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and I am saying yes you can...

This is like trying to explain icing in Hockey to my wife.
Hogwash. Things come from where they come from Ferd, whether we like it or not.
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:05 PM
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Hogwash. Things come from where they come from Ferd, whether we like it or not.
dude, if a car comes to Dallas from Berkley California, that dont mean I have to hate the car.

its a car. the fact that it spent time in the land of idiots doesnt matter.


and who cares what some sorcerer did in 3AD? the guy down at Phiser working on a cure for cancer has no relation!

thats just silly thinking. and its why you have such a hard time with Christmas.

you make too many of these silly connections.



but I love you anyway!
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Old 06-16-2008, 01:45 PM
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dude, if a car comes to Dallas from Berkley California, that dont mean I have to hate the car.

its a car. the fact that it spent time in the land of idiots doesnt matter.


and who cares what some sorcerer did in 3AD? the guy down at Phiser working on a cure for cancer has no relation!

thats just silly thinking. and its why you have such a hard time with Christmas.

you make too many of these silly connections.



but I love you anyway!
Ferd, the point I am making is that modern day pharmacology has its roots in medicine men and witch doctors. You seem to be denying that fact. Pharmaceutical companies are still going into places like the Amazon to find combinations of herbs, stems, roots, berries, and bark being used by natives to cure illnesses. In fact, I saw a program on Discovery a few weeks ago where they were gathering the ingredients used by the medicine men of this tribe to take them back to their labs for study. It is what it is, Ferd, and it came from where it came from. That's not a silly connection, Bro. It's a fact. I've already acknowledged that I don't know why the translators chose the word "witchcraft", and why it was included in Galatians in the first place.

Also, don't pretend to understand why I don't celebrate Christmas because you obviously don't.
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Ferd, the point I am making is that modern day pharmacology has its roots in medicine men and witch doctors. You seem to be denying that fact. Pharmaceutical companies are still going into places like the Amazon to find combinations of herbs, stems, roots, berries, and bark being used by natives to cure illnesses. In fact, I saw a program on Discovery a few weeks ago where they were gathering the ingredients used by the medicine men of this tribe to take them back to their labs for study. It is what it is, Ferd, and it came from where it came from. That's not a silly connection, Bro. It's a fact. I've already acknowledged that I don't know why the translators chose the word "witchcraft", and why it was included in Galatians in the first place.

Also, don't pretend to understand why I don't celebrate Christmas because you obviously don't.
That's simply untrue, Rico. Or are you of the opinion that there were no legitimate physicians in Old Testament times?

Again, using any natural resource for healing and medicinal purposes is NOT the same as witchcraft. Witchcraft has to do with the spirit world. Crushing up berries or bark to make a medicinal (healing) drink does not. (Unless the concocter deliberately involves the spirit world as a component)
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That's simply untrue, Rico. Or are you of the opinion that there were no legitimate physicians in Old Testament times?

Again, using any natural resource for healing and medicinal purposes is NOT the same as witchcraft. Witchcraft has to do with the spirit world. Crushing up berries or bark to make a medicinal (healing) drink does not. (Unless the concocter deliberately involves the spirit world as a component)
Sister, read my lips: I already said I don't know why the translators chose to define the word pharmakeia as witchcraft. It is only used three times in the Bible, and all three of them refer to sorcery and witchcraft. Take it up with the translators and Paul, because I didn't write the letter.

None of which changes the fact that our modern day pharmacology has its roots in medicine men and witch doctors. If there was something wrong with you, you'd go see the medicine man, he'd figure what was wrong with you, put together some potion made from leaves, bark, roots, herbs, berries, or whatever they had found works, and then you'd take it. I am not making this up, it's a fact. The only difference today is that the pharmaceutical companies synthesize the ingredients found in the plants. Good grief! Y'all are something else!
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Sister, read my lips: I already said I don't know why the translators chose to define the word pharmakeia as witchcraft. It is only used three times in the Bible, and all three of them refer to sorcery and witchcraft. Take it up with the translators and Paul, because I didn't write the letter.

None of which changes the fact that our modern day pharmacology has its roots in medicine men and witch doctors. If there was something wrong with you, you'd go see the medicine man, he'd figure what was wrong with you, put together some potion made from leaves, bark, roots, herbs, berries, or whatever they had found works, and then you'd take it. I am not making this up, it's a fact. The only difference today is that the pharmaceutical companies synthesize the ingredients found in the plants. Good grief! Y'all are something else!
So in Bible days they didn't have physicians, only "medicine men?" Or "witches?"

Answer the question, Rico.
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Sister, read my lips: I already said I don't know why the translators chose to define the word pharmakeia as witchcraft. It is only used three times in the Bible, and all three of them refer to sorcery and witchcraft. Take it up with the translators and Paul, because I didn't write the letter.

None of which changes the fact that our modern day pharmacology has its roots in medicine men and witch doctors. If there was something wrong with you, you'd go see the medicine man, he'd figure what was wrong with you, put together some potion made from leaves, bark, roots, herbs, berries, or whatever they had found works, and then you'd take it. I am not making this up, it's a fact. The only difference today is that the pharmaceutical companies synthesize the ingredients found in the plants. Good grief! Y'all are something else!
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It is just a waste of time telling them the truth about it. Let them believe what they want, because it is in the Bible and there is no denying it.
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That's simply untrue, Rico. Or are you of the opinion that there were no legitimate physicians in Old Testament times?

Again, using any natural resource for healing and medicinal purposes is NOT the same as witchcraft. Witchcraft has to do with the spirit world. Crushing up berries or bark to make a medicinal (healing) drink does not. (Unless the concocter deliberately involves the spirit world as a component)
Where are physicans that gave medications in Old Testament times and what were the medications did they give?

Witchcraft has to do with more than the spirit world according to the Bible.
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:52 PM
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Where are physicans that gave medications in Old Testament times and what were the medications did they give?

Witchcraft has to do with more than the spirit world according to the Bible.
The art of compounding herbs, spices, etc was practiced by both the good and the bad. It was used by magicians, physicians and pharmacists. The art was practiced to formulate the incence used in altar of incence the holy place. (Ex 30:25; v 35; 37:29 ; Ecc 10:1)

It is referred to as the art or work of the apothecary.
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