Witchcraft = medication

[Rico]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Perhaps someone on this thread should have enough sense to realize that this is a sensitive topic for some people. Ferd's little boy was born premature. I really hope NO ONE on this thread would advocate removing that baby from the hospital, from the NICU, from his necessary INCUBATOR, and taking him home, away from all the [evil] medicine (pharmaceuticals).

Jeffrey was born premature as well. He had to receive immediate help with breathing, among other things.

So here's a question for you--if God wanted to heal Jeffrey, why didn't He do it BEFORE he needed to have a tube stuck down his throat? Do you think we waited until after he was in the NICU to start praying?

I assure you, I believe God is a healer, but He often does NOT heal us. Why? Is it because I, as a parent, am unwilling to put my children in imminent danger in order to test my faith?

If it's that sensitive a topic then why post on the thread in the first place? No one has criticized Ferd concerning his son.

[Pressing-On]

Wasn't Luke a physician, as well as, an Apostle?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Wasn't Luke a physician, as well as, an Apostle?

Doesn't matter. He didn't use pharmaceuticals. (At least according to OM)

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Doesn't matter. He didn't use pharmaceuticals. (At least according to OM)

Ohhhh, homeopathy? lol

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Doesn't matter. He didn't use pharmaceuticals. (At least according to OM)

Do you have proof that he did? If you do, scripture and verse please.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Wasn't Luke a physician, as well as, an Apostle?

The Bible doesn't say Luke was an apostle.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Rico

The Bible doesn't say Luke was an apostle.

He was with Paul in II Tim. Was he a Disciple or just a Christian follower? Regardless, how interesting with his skills to be with Paul. I wonder what he was thinking in accordance with his profession?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Rico

If it's that sensitive a topic then why post on the thread in the first place? No one has criticized Ferd concerning his son.

Oh, I wasn't just referring to Ferd. I know what it's like to have a child be deathly ill. Not just a cold or the flu, but actually in a life or death situation.

In fact, when I was 2, I nearly died because my father was holding out for my healing. My grandpa finally took me to the hospital without my father's consent. I was unconscious at the time, and barely breathing. My grandparents were godly, praying people who trusted God and saw many healings in their lifetime. But they had some wisdom, thank God.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Oh, I wasn't just referring to Ferd. I know what it's like to have a child be deathly ill. Not just a cold or the flu, but actually in a life or death situation.

In fact, when I was 2, I nearly died because my father was holding out for my healing. My grandpa finally took me to the hospital without my father's consent. I was unconscious at the time, and barely breathing. My grandparents were godly, praying people who trusted God and saw many healings in their lifetime. But they had some wisdom, thank God.

Sister, I have been down the no doctors road of faith, and believe me, it ain't all it's cracked up to be. We got into a car accident when my oldest daughter was almost three years old. Because of our beliefs against going to doctors, none of us went to the emergency room that night. When we woke up the next morning our daughter's ankles were black and blue. I had to take her to the ER at that point. It turned out that both her legs were broken.

Believe me when I tell you that I felt like I had let God down by going to see that doctor. It wasn't until somewhere around the middle of all that we had been going through with getting her legs healed up that I realized that I hadn't let God down and He hadn't let me down either. My faith was in Him through the whole thing, from start to finish.

With that said, it still doesn't change the fact that our first choice when it comes to our health should be Jesus; not science, not medicine, not anything but the Lord. Our first thought needs to be towards him and not the doctors. That is not to say not to go to the doctor, mind you. It's just to say that our trust needs to be in Jesus before the doctors. Are you getting where I am coming from?

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by Rico

Sister, I have been down the no doctors road of faith, and believe me, it ain't all it's cracked up to be. We got into a car accident when my oldest daughter was almost three years old. Because of our beliefs against going to doctors, none of us went to the emergency room that night. When we woke up the next morning our daughter's ankles were black and blue. I had to take her to the ER at that point. It turned out that both her legs were broken.

Believe me when I tell you that I felt like I had let God down by going to see that doctor. It wasn't until somewhere around the middle of all that we had been going through with getting her legs healed up that I realized that I hadn't let God down and He hadn't let me down either. My faith was in Him through the whole thing, from start to finish.

With that said, it still doesn't change the fact that our first choice when it comes to our health should be Jesus; not science, not medicine, not anything but the Lord. Our first thought needs to be towards him and not the doctors. That is not to say not to go to the doctor, mind you. It's just to say that our trust needs to be in Jesus before the doctors. Are you getting where I am coming from?

I am quite the skeptic when it comes to medication. Let me admit I am not one to take medication for anything except for anti-biotic or steroid here and there for extreme cases but it has nothing to do with my faith.

With every single chemical you put into your body you change it's composition, your body is in a constant state of homeostasis and when you change that by taking a pain killer you set yourself up for other things.

My freshman year in high school I had a bad accident, some kids from another local high school broke their legs in a car accident (because they had stolen a car and were in a high speed chase), when the femur is fractured it bleeds so it is an emergency surgery, so I had to wait a long time before I could go into surgery (I had to have athletic surgery). The entire time I opted out of morphine and other medication because I didn't like the way it felt.

Now, all that being said I find nothing wrong with medication but I do see a lot of problems caused by the over use of it. But again the Bible speaks of doing all in moderation. The secular trend, the feminization, all these issues are caused by an excess of certain natural chemicals.

I just find it ridiculous that people try and rationalize that medication is wrong when it is clear that it is not, the abuse or over use is just as bad as any excessive behavior but there is no Biblical precedent to decisively declare medication unbiblical, and frankly I think it is wrong to do so. You can't just go around saying the Bible says something is wrong when there is no proof that it does, IMO that is just as bad as adding to the Bible.