TV has been taught against, consistently for well over 40 years. Internet has been around less then 20 years and I've never heard anyone preach totally 100%... against the internet. I do not believe the AMF (ACI) saints have it much less then any other group. The amish won't drive a car or van.. but someone can drive them around in one. If I was to say internet was altogether wrong then get info in any way from the world wide web.. to me..its the same thing as the amish riding in a motor vehicle. It does seem strange the amish cant drive a van but can ride in one. That being said..I have to say I admire the amish for their stand. People (we) have to draw lines somewhere and sometimes the lines seem silly or hypocritical. People who dont believe nothing and have no convictions basically cannot be hypocrits. (sorry i cant spell well). Tv is where a lot of us have drawn the line. As I stated before..my kids are growing up in this fast paced world. And I need to be able to intelligently instruct them. When my kids grow up..they will no nothing of tv.. we dont allow dvd's. But they will know how to safely navigate the www. for education and business purposes. I understand the confusion with the tv/internet comparisons. The bad on tv far outweighs any good. tv is for what?? Your brand of upc was different then mine, obviously. Your bringing up that going to grocery store somehow makes us supporters of hollywood?? I percieve you have no problem with hollywood in your home or anywhere for that matter. I'm not stating this things to make you mad. I personally believe that no Christians have tv's. My Pastor tells me that that is not true and God has people on paths and that we are not to judge. I submit to my Pastor and try to just work on my own nasty self. We are all only going to be saved by the Grace of God. All I know is ultra conservative pentecost. My Pastor and Bishop, Paul and Alfred Deeds.Verbal Bean (tapes). Jonathan Alvear.Edwin Young. DC Moody.LE Westberg. Danny Perdew.Keith Hood.Ed Crider.Phil White. Gary Howard. Robert Davis.Ron Garrett. Meads. Lambeths. Cavaness.Nathan Dudley. Johnny King. Larry Booker. Johnny Godair.Crawford Coon. Nathaniel Wilson. Vaughn Morton.These preachers have shaped me into who I am today. What these men preach.. though I know there is even differences among them. These are the men who taught me against worldliness, and television is nothing else if not worldly. I got a little off track on this post.. forgive me.. i'm tired and have had a long day. God had to reach way down to a horrible cess pool to save me. And I owe him all my mind, heart and strength. I will always be ready to fight for the right. The trick is having the right attitude. I'm not too good at conveying my thoughts on paper (typing). I do believe your sincere and I appreciate your attitude. Talk to you soon.
TR
Bro. my point is that if you have the internet you already have "Hollywood in your home", plus all other kinds of things that will never be on TV. You have to choose to navigate away from it just like you can on TV. As far as there being nothing good on TV, that is not a valid argument. There are tons of educational and informational things that you can choose to watch. There are even people who have used TV to successfully reach millions of people with their brand of the gospel, and have grown ministries exponentially as a result....(insert gasp here). There are people who currently are members of those churches specifically because they saw them on TV. To answer your question as to what TV is for, it's for the same thing that radio is for. And there are things in all mediums that you should avoid and the wonderful thing is that you can easily avoid those things on all those mediums.
My point about supporting Hollywood is that you have to be consistent, because many of the same companies that benefit from TV benefit even more from the internet.
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Bro. my point is that if you have the internet you already have "Hollywood in your home", plus all other kinds of things that will never be on TV. You have to choose to navigate away from it just like you can on TV. As far as there being nothing good on TV, that is not a valid argument. There are tons of educational and informational things that you can choose to watch. There are even people who have used TV to successfully reach millions of people with their brand of the gospel, and have grown ministries exponentially as a result....(insert gasp here). There are people who currently are members of those churches specifically because they saw them on TV. To answer your question as to what TV is for, it's for the same thing that radio is for. And there are things in all mediums that you should avoid and the wonderful thing is that you can easily avoid those things on all those mediums.
My point about supporting Hollywood is that you have to be consistent, because many of the same companies that benefit from TV benefit even more from the internet.
Brother, I guess my brand of the gospel is different. I feel I am consistent. And you feel your consistent. Lets both just go forward in Jesus name. I'll never agree with using television. And you do. No skin off my nose. God bless.
TR
Brother, I guess my brand of the gospel is different. I feel I am consistent. And you feel your consistent. Lets both just go forward in Jesus name. I'll never agree with using television. And you do. No skin off my nose. God bless.
TR
It does seem to be a case of agreeing to disagree. But while there may be no skin off your nose and certainly none of mine. This whole situation was very damaging to many people, families, and churches. And that is what bothers me.
God Bless you too and once again welcome to the forum. I do look forward to conversations with you. I know that there is a lot that we will have in common and agree on and be able to have beneficial discussion about.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
It does seem to be a case of agreeing to disagree. But while there may be no skin off your nose and certainly none of mine. This whole situation was very damaging to many people, families, and churches. And that is what bothers me.
God Bless you too and once again welcome to the forum. I do look forward to conversations with you. I know that there is a lot that we will have in common and agree on and be able to have beneficial discussion about.
Brother, what caused the damage to so many people? The way the WPF was started? The leaders of the UPC were in no way surprised by actions of the founders of the WPF, they new a split was coming, if the vote went towards letting tv in.
Brother, what caused the damage to so many people? The way the WPF was started? The leaders of the UPC were in no way surprised by actions of the founders of the WPF, they new a split was coming, if the vote went towards letting tv in.
Bro. I don't want to resurrect our the whole conversation , but in a nutshell...yes. Once again I believe that anyone would recognize the damaging nature of influential people in a local church body doing the exact same thing. And yes, I do believe that the actions of those founders did catch many in the UPC by surprise...including myself. I don't mind someone leaving if they feel they have to follow their convictions...but if you are going to claim the high road, your actions better bear that out or you run the risk of looking foolish or hypocritical.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
I will always be ready to fight for the right. The trick is having the right attitude. I'm not too good at conveying my thoughts on paper (typing). I do believe your sincere and I appreciate your attitude. Talk to you soon.
Re: Have You Been to WWPF Lately?
, but in a nutshell...yes. Once again I believe that anyone would recognize the damaging nature of influential people in a local church body doing the exact same thing. And yes, I do believe that the actions of those founders did catch many in the UPC by surprise...including myself. I don't mind someone leaving if they feel they have to follow their convictions...but if you are going to claim the high road, your actions better bear that out or you run the risk of looking foolish or hypocritical.
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