Logic is not in the bible. It's a faith thing. Time will tell what will happen with both fellowships and hopefully God blesses both groups. Your logic leads to not being able to stand for anything without being hypoctical. Not rationalizing everything would be a good beginning. I know.. I'm mean spirited.
Bro. I stand for plenty...but all my stands are biblical and consistent. Not stubborn and traditional. The Bible I read is very logical to me and there are no inconsistent stands.
My point is that you do yourselves no favor with a stance that is not Biblical and illogical.
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Bro. I stand for plenty...but all my stands are biblical and consistent. Not stubborn and traditional. The Bible I read is very logical to me and there are no inconsistent stands.
My point is that you do yourselves no favor with a stance that is not Biblical and illogical.
Which unbiblical stands are we talking about? How long have you been UPC?
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Which unbiblical stands are we talking about? How long have you been UPC?
If being associated with television at all in any capacity is against the Bible, then the internet would have to be. You would probably have to use whatever scripture you found that you think teaches against having anything to do with TV, to reraise the earlier ultra con teaching against the radio.
I was born and raised in the UPC.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
If being associated with television at all in any capacity is against the Bible, then the internet would have to be. You would probably have to use whatever scripture you found that you think teaches against having anything to do with TV, to reraise the earlier ultra con teaching against the radio.
I was born and raised in the UPC.
So if you were born and raised in the upc.. who taught you that tv may be ok? Cause for yrs. its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it.
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So if you were born and raised in the upc.. who taught you that tv may be ok? Cause for yrs. its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it.
Nobody "taught me that TV is ok". I don't have to be taught to question the double standard in the stance. I don't have to be told what to think about everything. I'm thankful that I was not taught to be that way by any of my pastors.
I have been taught to study myself to show myself approved so that I am not ashamed by the stances that I take or an inabilty to fully explain them.
The point that I have been trying to make is that I am very evangelistic by nature. I go to a very evangelistic church and as a result I deal with new members and visitors on a weekly basis. It is not enough to tell those people that something is illogical but "its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it". I think that a lot of people who do such things are not dealing with hundreds of new people as a result of their church growth and are dealing with the same people and able to rely on the old party line.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
Nobody "taught me that TV is ok". I don't have to be taught to question the double standard in the stance. I don't have to be told what to think about everything. I'm thankful that I was not taught to be that way by any of my pastors.
I have been taught to study myself to show myself approved so that I am not ashamed by the stances that I take or an inabilty to fully explain them.
The point that I have been trying to make is that I am very evangelistic by nature. I go to a very evangelistic church and as a result I deal with new members and visitors on a weekly basis. It is not enough to tell those people that something is illogical but "its been against the the "rules" to own one as a minster and we were told to teach the saints against it". I think that a lot of people who do such things are not dealing with hundreds of new people as a result of their church growth and are dealing with the same people and able to rely on the old party line.
Brother, I can appreciate it the fact that you deal with a lot of new people and there are much larger issues then tv. Watching anything on tv with new people would be over the line. Your right, in saying when new people are coming in consistently, its whole different mindset then saints always just seeing the same old saints. I understand that new saints "need" logic caused they lack faith and hope. I co worker of mine has been attending services with me the past 5 Sunday nights. He needs the HG, the revelation of who Jesus is. I won't his tv for awhile..thats not my job anyways. Talk to you soon.
God bless.
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