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Old 06-21-2008, 04:26 PM
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So, seeking a ban on nuclear weapons, a global ban on fissile material and negotiating with Russia to take ICBMs off hair-trigger alert would be bad, right?
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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:46 PM
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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?
Rico,

It's one of those things that doesn't make any sense, except for people bent on power and destruction.

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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?
It isn't really like that in the "real" world of our nuclear arsenal.

We do have the ability to deploy thousands of nukes, however since the break up of the Soviet Union we have pulled more stuff out of the "ready to use" inventory than we have left in.

As an example, the nukes deployed around the area I grew up were upgraded in the 1980's to carry the MX style multiple warhead payload. These have all been down graded to carry just a single warhead on each missile. The extras have been disassembled for storage and testing purposes.

We no longer manufacture nuclear weapons from scratch. The exact processes are a closely guarded secret, but according to www.fas.org (a bunch of "peaceniks" but still an excellent source of info) it appears that the US is mainly into recycling plutonium these days.

Also, if we were to "ban" the manufacture of weapons grade fissile material wouldn't that mean military action by us to enforce such a ban? That would mean war with Iran and North Korea right off the bat for an Obama administration. Is he really up to that?
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Also, if we were to "ban" the manufacture of weapons grade fissile material wouldn't that mean military action by us to enforce such a ban? That would mean war with Iran and North Korea right off the bat for an Obama administration. Is he really up to that?
Not to worry.
Our country and our world are in BAD shape and Hussein Obama is the candidate of change. He will change all that. And as far as war, well, our new President will sit down and talk to these leaders face to face as equals and they will come to a peaceful settlement.
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Apparently so. I guess the thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapon we already have aren't enough. I wonder how many times over we should be able to wipe out the whole earth before we realize we have enough nuclear weapons?

Rico - apparently people don't realize that the power that we have developed has gone a long way to keeping peace throughout the world. It is because of that power that many WOULD BE NEW HITLERS have not risen, in fear of the power of the US might......and thus keeping the peace....[/I]Obama wants to throw it away with the hopes that it will encourage other nations to follow suit. Hogwash! If they see a chink in our armor they will be on us like a hen on a junebug.

The guy is nuts, but has a huge following of people who are deceived and led astray by his fancy rhetoric.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:20 AM
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Rico - apparently people don't realize that the power that we have developed has gone a long way to keeping peace throughout the world. It is because of that power that many WOULD BE NEW HITLERS have not risen, in fear of the power of the US might......and thus keeping the peace....[/i]Obama wants to throw it away with the hopes that it will encourage other nations to follow suit. Hogwash! If they see a chink in our armor they will be on us like a hen on a junebug.

The guy is nuts, but has a huge following of people who are deceived and led astray by his fancy rhetoric.
Our strong military and our large nuclear arsenal is what kept the Soviet Empire at bay, contributed to the collapse of the USSR and Communist Eastern Europe, and has continued to keep us strong and secure to this day.

Too many people seem to not understand the concept of "peace through strength". Lack of knowledge is what's killing this country, and this dearth of knowledge and understanding is what will probably get this man Obama elected. God help America.
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Our strong military and our large nuclear arsenal is what kept the Soviet Empire at bay, contributed to the collapse of the USSR and Communist Eastern Europe, and has continued to keep us strong and secure to this day.

Too many people seem to not understand the concept of "peace through strength". Lack of knowledge is what's killing this country, and this dearth of knowledge and understanding is what will probably get this man Obama elected. God help America.
Glad to see there is indeed a subject that we agree on!
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Our strong military and our large nuclear arsenal is what kept the Soviet Empire at bay, contributed to the collapse of the USSR and Communist Eastern Europe, and has continued to keep us strong and secure to this day.

Too many people seem to not understand the concept of "peace through strength". Lack of knowledge is what's killing this country, and this dearth of knowledge and understanding is what will probably get this man Obama elected. God help America.
The problem is that strength relied on technology many of our enemies did not have. Enemies who now have that technology or are in the process of developing it.
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