killed by vampire raised from Dead@ Lakeland!

[StMark]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

And would you include the Ten Commandments in the "moral laws?"

Yes, BUT the libs can't include it!! according to THEIR
doctrine, NONE of the OT is applicable

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by StMark

Yes, BUT the libs can't include it!! according to THEIR
doctrine, NONE of the OT is applicable

Wrong. It is all applicable, but not all of it stayed with the new dispensation. Just twisting it to make it fit one ideals is wrong. If you make tithing sinful and some other things, like the OP church does, then can't wear or mix wool and linen and a laundry list of other things that are picked through and only the things we want are chosen. give me a break

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by StMark

Yes, BUT the libs can't include it!! according to THEIR
doctrine, NONE of the OT is applicable

First of all, that isn't true for the majority of "liberals." Secondly, since YOU include those laws for yourself, then abide by them and quit arguing nonsensical arguments. (Such as, "YOU can't tell ME what to do, because you're worse than I am, nah, nah, nah, nah-nah", ad nauseum)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by tbpew

PrAX,
Simon didn't invent his little circus show deal just since Pentecost.
I am almost certain Jannes and Jambres were pre-Pentecost
Wasn't divination the game the prophets of Baal were selling?

I think your comment
"If there was no Pentecost they would all be snake oil salesmen, elixer peddlers, hypnotists and psychics" doesn't have enough push to brake out of earth's gravity

that is my point! they existed before pentecost. they use pentecostals. wolves in sheeps clothing

simon wanted this power because he wanted power over the people.

Jud 1:4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Jud 1:8 Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones.
Jud 1:9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you."
Jud 1:10 But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.
Jud 1:11 Woe to them! For they walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam's error and perished in Korah's rebellion.
Jud 1:12 These are blemishes on your love feasts, as they feast with you without fear, looking after themselves; waterless clouds, swept along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted;

Jud 1:16 These people are grumblers and fault-finders who go wherever their desires lead them, and they give bombastic speeches, enchanting folks for their own gain.

Mat 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
2Th 2:10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
2Th 2:11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,

2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers will go forward to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

2Ti 3:5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
2Ti 3:6 For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions,
2Ti 3:7 always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

that is my point! they existed before pentecost. they use pentecostals. wolves in sheeps clothing

simon wanted this power because he wanted power over the people.

Jud 1:4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Jud 1:8 Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones.
Jud 1:9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you."
Jud 1:10 But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.
Jud 1:11 Woe to them! For they walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam's error and perished in Korah's rebellion.
Jud 1:12 These are blemishes on your love feasts, as they feast with you without fear, looking after themselves; waterless clouds, swept along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted;

Jud 1:16 These people are grumblers and fault-finders who go wherever their desires lead them, and they give bombastic speeches, enchanting folks for their own gain.

Mat 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
2Th 2:10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
2Th 2:11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,

2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers will go forward to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

2Ti 3:5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
2Ti 3:6 For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions,
2Ti 3:7 always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.

thanks for the reply.
Somehow I got on a different track of thought as I read your premise and the supporting scene from scripture.

[Praxeas]

you r welcome

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I'm not anti standard, just anti non-Biblical standards.

if the bible was a book of instruction concerning standards, the world's libraries probably would not have enough shelves to hold its volumes.

In my understanding, the bible is LIGHT to show us the character and thoughts of God toward his creation. Its witness involves principles that reveal and govern the heart.

How each of us seek and intermeddle within the 'light' that has been provided will in the end, reveal what we have followed and trusted.

Focusing on defining standards changes the scripture from a witness of Spirit to a witness of the Letter.

[ManOfWord]

I fully believe in miracles and that God can and does raise people from the dead. But from the looks of this, it is going to be giving the BH crusades some competition.

I predict that the wackiness will increase. Truly changed lives are more important than anything!

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by U376977

OMG. OMG is not the name of God. His name is Jesus! StMark did not title OMJ! What is the big deal. It is not a cursing. If we need to curse we could say, "Judas Priest" and curse his name.

I don't believe anything out of Lakeland. This guy is a serious nut, a confessed child molestor--he was 17 and his victim was 7. If he repented then God can forgive, but when it came out years later he denied it until he was confronted with his own "confession."

Anyone should be able to judge this "revival." But you can't judge by "Miracles." God is merciful and is always willing to perform miracles. He heals by faith--if you believe in him and his miracle working power then you can receive a miracle. But that does not validate the minister or the movement. That error goes back to Branhamism. You must judge the "revival" by the word that is preached. And Bently--in my opinion--is preaching NO Word. He rarely takes a Bible to the pulpit!!

Originally Posted by StMark

Thanks- good post !

I always have read OMG to be "Oh My Goodness".

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by StMark

you wait til sherri sees this comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello, this is a public forum I hope HE sees it.