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Old 07-05-2008, 04:01 PM
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I don't see where teaching a woman should have uncut hair and that God's presence could be manifest in their life is teaching false doctrine or that it is akin to judaizers and gnostics that were forsaking the blood of Christ.
Can you show us where the bible teaches uncut hair manifests the power of God?

It's usually by faith In Christ, but if some are saying it's also by a woman having long uncut hair this is counter to the idea of faith in Christ
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Can you show us where the bible teaches uncut hair manifests the power of God?

It's usually by faith In Christ, but if some are saying it's also by a woman having long uncut hair this is counter to the idea of faith in Christ
More core doctrine.
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Old 07-05-2008, 04:11 PM
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Seriously....even if we ALL can agree that women should have uncut hair there is nothing whatsoever about manifesting the Spirit of God by her hair.

There is not a single instance of a woman using her hair for any reason other than to wipe the feet of Jesus..

The bible says call for the elders to pray over you...never call for the woman to lay their hair on you.

Where is that? WHERE? That implies that God has fused supernatural power within their hair....why lay hands on anymore? Just get the ladies long hair. That is scary that we can allow such doctrines and not oppose them. False doctrines breed false doctrines. A Theology not based entirely on the word of God is subject to such extremes and open to many other kinds of false doctrines...We got not the Yahwehists..we got people saying the name of Jesus in greek means a pig and is related to Zeus and that we HAVE to use the hebrew name only. We got people denying Jesus was really our kinsman redeemr (heavenly flesh) and you can't see why it's important to stop these things and nip them at the bud????

1 verse! 1 VERSE! Just ONE verse they have built a doctrine where by some can even be cursed I take it if you don't follow along, whereby a woman has power WITH angels (men don't I guess), their family is protected (if you are a single man you are in deep trouble) and that they can drop their hair from their bun and summon the presence of God! WOW! We've been worshiping and waiting on the Lord when all along all we had to do was have our ladies let their hair down and summon the manifestation of the Spirit!

And all this time oil and laying on hands for healing when all we needed was uncut hair! That does not trouble some of us??? That troubles me tremendously!

The Israelites also stumbled thinking there was some power with in Aarons rod that budded.
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Seriously....even if we ALL can agree that women should have uncut hair there is nothing whatsoever about manifesting the Spirit of God by her hair.

There is not a single instance of a woman using her hair for any reason other than to wipe the feet of Jesus..

The bible says call for the elders to pray over you...never call for the woman to lay their hair on you.

Where is that? WHERE? That implies that God has fused supernatural power within their hair....why lay hands on anymore? Just get the ladies long hair. That is scary that we can allow such doctrines and not oppose them. False doctrines breed false doctrines. A Theology not based entirely on the word of God is subject to such extremes and open to many other kinds of false doctrines...We got not the Yahwehists..we got people saying the name of Jesus in greek means a pig and is related to Zeus and that we HAVE to use the hebrew name only. We got people denying Jesus was really our kinsman redeemr (heavenly flesh) and you can't see why it's important to stop these things and nip them at the bud????

1 verse! 1 VERSE! Just ONE verse they have built a doctrine where by some can even be cursed I take it if you don't follow along, whereby a woman has power WITH angels (men don't I guess), their family is protected (if you are a single man you are in deep trouble) and that they can drop their hair from their bun and summon the presence of God! WOW! We've been worshiping and waiting on the Lord when all along all we had to do was have our ladies let their hair down and summon the manifestation of the Spirit!

And all this time oil and laying on hands for healing when all we needed was uncut hair! That does not trouble some of us??? That troubles me tremendously!

The Israelites also stumbled thinking there was some power with in Aarons rod that budded.
uncut hair has no power in itself but obedience and submission to the word of God as a whole is where the power comes from. Take Saul for an example, when he disobeyed God the spirit of God departed. long hair is an obedience requirement for the power of God in women's lives.
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uncut hair has no power in itself but obedience and submission to the word of God as a whole is where the power comes from.
the power comes from the Spirit and I agree uncut hair has no power in itself...there is no power IN uncut hair for a lady...none.

She has a symbol of authority on her head because she came after the man.

It does not say power with angels as some have said
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Can you show us where the bible teaches uncut hair manifests the power of God?

It's usually by faith In Christ, but if some are saying it's also by a woman having long uncut hair this is counter to the idea of faith in Christ
Samson's power wasn't in his hair, it was in the anointing of God that manifested itself in his great strength.
Cut the hair & you lose an anointing.

A women's uncut hair is a symbol of her consecration to God & her submission,
the power isn't in the hair.

The power is in the anointing!
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Samson's power wasn't in his hair, it was in the anointing of God that manifested itself in his great strength.
Cut the hair & you lose an anointing.

A women's uncut hair is a symbol of her consecration to God & her submission,
the power isn't in the hair.

The power is in the anointing!
For some one is vehemently against magic hair doctrine you do a lot apologizing for it.
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For some one is vehemently against magic hair doctrine you do a lot apologizing for it.
Coming from one who believes Heaven will be overflowing with believers of all stripes, I am not surprised that you don't believe in uncut hair.
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Coming from one who believes Heaven will be overflowing with believers of all stripes, I am not surprised that you don't believe in uncut hair.
1. Who says I don't believe someone can believe this and not got to heaven?

2. Not surprised I don't believe in uncut hair ?????... this is not about cut or uncut.
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1. Who says I don't believe someone can believe this and not got to heaven?

2. Not surprised I don't believe in uncut hair ?????... this is not about cut or uncut.
Then what has got you so in a snippet??

We all said that we do not agree with Magic Hair!!!!

What is it you want Daniel??

That is the crux of all of these threads.

I bet you won't answer it.
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