Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved - Page 11

Cindy · #**101** 07-08-2008, 09:36 AM

So people with eating disorders will go to hell? BTW, overeating is not the only way to be a glutton. I am glad some of y'all aren't going to be my judge.

Baron1710 · #**102** 07-08-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx

So people with eating disorders will go to hell? BTW, overeating is not the only way to be a glutton. I am glad some of y'all aren't going to be my judge.

I think most people that pointed out the eating part of it were really saying that those who are busy sending smokers to hell are being inconsistent.

Cindy · #**103** 07-08-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

I think most people that pointed out the eating part of it were really saying that those who are busy sending smokers to hell are being inconsistent.

Yeah, I know Baron. But there is a lot of joking and not so joking references to fat preachers here. The sad part of generalizations made in ignorance just so someone can get a little poke at preachers. There are a lot of people struggling with the problem and read here and not be able to separate it from themselves. Most eating disorders are from an emotional place. I was anorexic and thankfully God healed me before it killed me.

BrotherEastman · #**104** 07-08-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro31:28

But people do have a choice when eating food. Is there any nutritional value in a candy bar or a piece of cheesecake, or a soda? IMO Pringles (once you pop, you just can't stop) can be addicting too.
I myself go to Olive Garden and every time I go, I know I overeat, those breadsticks are fabulous! I don't think this will send me to hell, but I also don't use that scripture for judging smokers either.

Yes, people have a choice of which foods to eat; however, I think you missed my point, most food (if not all) has something bad in it that you really don't want to put into your body. For me, it isn't about gluttony, but about what foods you can avoid. Almost everything we eat is "processed" so it becomes a challenge of which foods to avoid. It only becomes a challenge to avoid smoking if one is addicted to the nicotene. Therefore, it is a matter of choice when it comes to smoking, but a matter of survival when it comes to eating. Does that make better sense?

Michael Phelps · #**105** 07-08-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx

Yeah, I know Baron. But there is a lot of joking and not so joking references to fat preachers here. The sad part of generalizations made in ignorance just so someone can get a little poke at preachers. There are a lot of people struggling with the problem and read here and not be able to separate it from themselves. Most eating disorders are from an emotional place. I was anorexic and thankfully God healed me before it killed me.

I don't agree with this, Cindy.

I think most of us are, as Baron said, pointing out the inconsistencies of preachers, or anyone for that matter, who will put someone in hell for smoking, all the while getting larger and larger, and unhealthier and unhealthier.

Some may have eating disorders, but in my experience, most of us suffer from a lack of self-control, myself included.

DividedThigh · #**106** 07-08-2008, 11:40 AM

ah yes self control, a fleeting thing, especially the jaw

Rico · #**107** 07-08-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Yes, people have a choice of which foods to eat; however, I think you missed my point, most food (if not all) has something bad in it that you really don't want to put into your body. For me, it isn't about gluttony, but about what foods you can avoid. Almost everything we eat is "processed" so it becomes a challenge of which foods to avoid. It only becomes a challenge to avoid smoking if one is addicted to the nicotene. Therefore, it is a matter of choice when it comes to smoking, but a matter of survival when it comes to eating. Does that make better sense?

No, it doesn't because you could always grow your own food, raise your own chickens, hogs, cows and whatnot for meat. You could also go fishin for your meat. So, you see, you choose to eat the food you buy at the store.

Brad Murphy · #**108** 07-08-2008, 12:05 PM

I am overweight myself... around 220 pounds... but I am working on it. I just don't believe that people should be able to blame their genes or whatever for their weight. If you go to other countries (other than England or Australia) you would understand that this is a problem with our Western culture, and if anything, Christians should be BETTER keepers of their temple than other people... more and more I expect someone who takes their religion seriously to take their health and maintenance and upkeep of their bodies just as seriously. We can't ALL have glandular or other medical excuses for being overweight...

Monkeyman · #**109** 07-08-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I don't agree with this, Cindy.

I think most of us are, as Baron said, pointing out the inconsistencies of preachers, or anyone for that matter, who will put someone in hell for smoking, all the while getting larger and larger, and unhealthier and unhealthier.

Some may have eating disorders, but in my experience, most of us suffer from a lack of self-control, myself included.

I disagree, I tuned out after the comments, FAT UPC PREACHERS...there was intent, and THAT grossed me out.

Monkeyman · #**110** 07-08-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gulfcoastbrother

I tell you what amazes me is the big, fat UPC preachers that get up and preach against smoking but over eat themselves to death. I think they take that scripture about gluttony out of the Bible.

The post....as if no other denomination has obese preachers that preach against smoking, the nerve of this poster, shameful, really shameful!