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Old 07-10-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Can A Person Overeat Pork Everyday & Be Saved?

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What gives? Why all the "can still be saved" threads? Please, are you just trying to raise a bunch of sand? Or are you subtly trying to challenge every belief many hold as truth?
Why not make a list.

1. Can a person have toe fungus and be saved.
2. Can a person have ear wax and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
3. Can a person drink Coke and not defile his body.
4. Can a person lust--as long as he does not touch--and be pure.
5. Can a person post too many stupid posts on AFF and be saved
6. Can a person kiss their step daughter and still be saved.
7. Can a person lick their way to the end of a toosie roll pop and still be saved?

Post all your questions at once and everyone can adivse you just how loose you can live and still be saved. Then you can do as you please.....but I think you are already doing as you please and as you intrepet the Bible and not following ANY church or organization doctrine.
No friend, you've got me all wrong. First of all, I once was in UPC... Raised in it... Preached in it for 8 years... Left just 3 years ago... Planted an independent church 2 1/2 years ago and am now a part of a much larger organization than UPCI and I've never been closer to God in my life. Thanks for the input though.

I would like to comment on situation #1... I don't believe that you can go to heaven with toe fungus. Anyone with a toe fungus, obviously has a defiled temple.

In all honesty, I already know exactly where I stand on all of these issues and I'm firmly planted in my belief, which is based on the Word of God, however, I have wanted to watch the reaction of others and I must say that the smoking thread has really done well for itself.

Do you have any questions that you would like me to give you answers too? Perhaps you're yoked to unnecessary things that some ultra con preacher has told you were "Good Works of Holiness" and you must obey or else! Please open up and let me help you. I've been set free from drugs, nicotine and the UPC! Praise the Lord!
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:19 PM
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Re: Can A Person Overeat Pork Everyday & Be Saved?

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No friend, you've got me all wrong. First of all, I once was in UPC... Raised in it... Preached in it for 8 years... Left just 3 years ago... Planted an independent church 2 1/2 years ago and am now a part of a much larger organization than UPCI and I've never been closer to God in my life. Thanks for the input though.

I would like to comment on situation #1... I don't believe that you can go to heaven with toe fungus. Anyone with a toe fungus, obviously has a defiled temple.

In all honesty, I already know exactly where I stand on all of these issues and I'm firmly planted in my belief, which is based on the Word of God, however, I have wanted to watch the reaction of others and I must say that the smoking thread has really done well for itself.

Do you have any questions that you would like me to give you answers too? Perhaps you're yoked to unnecessary things that some ultra con preacher has told you were "Good Works of Holiness" and you must obey or else! Please open up and let me help you. I've been set free from drugs, nicotine and the UPC! Praise the Lord!
AG, I don't think it's such a good idea to lump the UPC in with things like drugs Bro. It's one thing to have left the UPC. It's another to be anti-UPC.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:38 PM
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Re: Can A Person Overeat Pork Everyday & Be Saved?

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AG, I don't think it's such a good idea to lump the UPC in with things like drugs Bro. It's one thing to have left the UPC. It's another to be anti-UPC.
The UPC as a whole, I agree.

Certain churches, within the UPC, with dogmatic leaders, blindly walking and leading others down a path of man made doctrines likened to that of the pharasies - Are worse and harder to be "delivered" from than drugs.
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: Can A Person Overeat Pork Everyday & Be Saved?

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The UPC as a whole, I agree.

Certain churches, within the UPC, with dogmatic leaders, blindly walking and leading others down a path of man made doctrines likened to that of the pharasies - Are worse and harder to be "delivered" from than drugs.
Possibly, but there are individual churches like that in every group or organization of churches. There were churches even in the New Testament that had already started developing cultures and practices that Paul had to address and correct.
Pretty much when I saw the post that Rico responded to, I was through with the whole conversation.
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:09 PM
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Re: Can A Person Overeat Pork Everyday & Be Saved?

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No friend, you've got me all wrong. First of all, I once was in UPC... Raised in it... Preached in it for 8 years... Left just 3 years ago... Planted an independent church 2 1/2 years ago and am now a part of a much larger organization than UPCI and I've never been closer to God in my life. Thanks for the input though........

......Do you have any questions that you would like me to give you answers too? Perhaps you're yoked to unnecessary things that some ultra con preacher has told you were "Good Works of Holiness" and you must obey or else! Please open up and let me help you. I've been set free from drugs, nicotine and the UPC! Praise the Lord!
I think you have some ways to go here. You sound as if you are very bitter. You even wrote on another thread that UPC was a cult, or maybe you said cult like? (I am not a UPC man, or any organization, but I would not call it a cult). I don't think you can say you are delivered from the UPC, and lump it in the same catagory with drugs and cults. It is like saying I have been delivered from pride, Praise the Lord I am the most humble person in the world! Just ask me, I'll tell you!!
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