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Old 07-14-2008, 09:28 PM
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Thanks Steve. Congrats on the promotion...taxing as it may be. Nice avatar...lol.

What do you think? Meeting in homes warrant disfellowship across the board....or is fear a factor?
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:33 PM
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Thanks Steve. Congrats on the promotion...taxing as it may be. Nice avatar...lol.

What do you think. Meeting in homes warrant disfellowship across the board....or is fear a factor?
Not having investigated it at all, I would start by giving them the benefit of doubt. I doubt they are out to single out the home church Oneness Pentecostals. I would like to think it is driven by there desire to keep the group "Apostolic" and the "home groups" movement is much broader than that.

I may very well be wrong.
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:41 PM
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Not having investigated it at all, I would start by giving them the benefit of doubt. I doubt they are out to single out the home church Oneness Pentecostals. I would like to think it is driven by there desire to keep the group "Apostolic" and the "home groups" movement is much broader than that.

I may very well be wrong.
Sure, it would be one thing if someone was invading with some other unbiblical doctrine all in the name of house church, just to be a wrench. Howbeit, these are clearly apostolics.

Besides, there was no offensive push to disrupt, just to be.

I think it says something when we can't just be among, whether in person or online, with fellow oneness apostolics.

Brings Paul's rebuke to mind, in essense.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:05 PM
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Sure, it would be one thing if someone was invading with some other unbiblical doctrine all in the name of house church, just to be a wrench. Howbeit, these are clearly apostolics.

Besides, there was no offensive push to disrupt, just to be.

I think it says something when we can't just be among, whether in person or online, with fellow oneness apostolics.

Brings Paul's rebuke to mind, in essense.
Not only do I personally agree, I would extend that to most of Christianity in general. Even though vitriol cometh my way saying so!
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Re: everyones apostolic shuts out house church goe

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Not having investigated it at all, I would start by giving them the benefit of doubt. I doubt they are out to single out the home church Oneness Pentecostals. I would like to think it is driven by there desire to keep the group "Apostolic" and the "home groups" movement is much broader than that.

I may very well be wrong.
Unfortunately you are. I received a response from the admin, and was told that my view on house churches was "controversial" and "divisive" and that it was not "fit for EA." That is why my Home church group was deleted and I was banned.

Which is interesting because the description I used for the group was PURE SCRIPTURE. I never said that traditional churches were evil, or that house churches were the only way, simply that this was where God had brought me.

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Unfortunately you are. I received a response from the admin, and was told that my view on house churches was "controversial" and "divisive" and that it was not "fit for EA." That is why my Home church group was deleted and I was banned.

Which is interesting because the description I used for the group was PURE SCRIPTURE. I never said that traditional churches were evil, or that house churches were the only way, simply that this was where God had brought me.

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as one who has been predominately "house-2-house" assembly for the last 4 years, I think the largest occassion for polarity involves a key differentiator between the two delivery systems; the traditional role for men as founding/senior pastors.

If a person is convinced that God uses men as subordinate heads between the sheep and the Good Shepherd, and these subordinate heads (Moses' seat holders of the NT) are to be obeyed as rulers, any alternate system that repositions these persons as gifts and guides, instead of as rulers, is a source of consternation for those who are the primary stakeholders in a building-centric delivery system.

If these same people are the sponsors of various online communities, they would NATURALLY oppose providing any stage for discussing the assembly of the Saints in any other manner than what they themselves officiate over --a former tabernacle that is a building. It would be like a home educator sponsoring online costs and administration in service to a discussion forum where folks wanted to discuss parental groups working together with government schools...it just would not be encouraged or welcomed.

What is needed is for those of us with interest, energy and resource, to get together and work to provide a credible, workable, web-presence for house-to-house leaning folks to share encouragement and be encouraged.
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If these same people are the sponsors of various online communities, they would NATURALLY oppose providing any stage for discussing the assembly of the Saints in any other manner than what they themselves officiate over --a former tabernacle that is a building. It would be like a home educator sponsoring online costs and administration in service to a discussion forum where folks wanted to discuss parental groups working together with government schools...it just would not be encouraged or welcomed.
Excellent comparison. Thank you.
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