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Old 07-16-2008, 02:35 PM
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Pastor Poster,

I may get strung up for this but this is what I think.

Men's ministry fails because it ends up being one more time for someone to get the men together and tell them how they should act.

Far too often churches end up thinking every get together is an opportunity to teach a lesson or preach a sermon.

where men are concerned, I don't think that is the best approach. It OUGHT to be about fellowship.

I believe in teaching. I believe in Sunday school. In fact, I don't think anyone should be allowed in leadership of a church if they aren't involved in Sunday school as either a teacher or a student. period. that includes the music department folk.

I believe in prayer meetings. Churches should have those on a regular basis.

but a men's ministry ought to be about the men and not another chance for Sunday school or a prayer meeting.

But if you want to be effective with a men's ministry, it better be something the men are willing to be a part of. where they can let their guard down and be real. Fish, hunt, camp, play golf, go to ball games. Find things that interest your men and make it something that they can be a part of. Let it be something they can invite friends to and develop Godly relationships with Godly men.
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Pastor Poster,

I may get strung up for this but this is what I think.

Men's ministry fails because it ends up being one more time for someone to get the men together and tell them how they should act.

Far too often churches end up thinking every get together is an opportunity to teach a lesson or preach a sermon.

where men are concerned, I don't think that is the best approach. It OUGHT to be about fellowship.

I believe in teaching. I believe in Sunday school. In fact, I don't think anyone should be allowed in leadership of a church if they aren't involved in Sunday school as either a teacher or a student. period. that includes the music department folk.

I believe in prayer meetings. Churches should have those on a regular basis.

but a men's ministry ought to be about the men and not another chance for Sunday school or a prayer meeting.

But if you want to be effective with a men's ministry, it better be something the men are willing to be a part of. where they can let their guard down and be real. Fish, hunt, camp, play golf, go to ball games. Find things that interest your men and make it something that they can be a part of. Let it be something they can invite friends to and develop Godly relationships with Godly men.
Wild at heart talks about shoulder to shoulder fellowship
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:38 PM
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Wild at heart talks about shoulder to shoulder fellowship
sounds like a good thing to me.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:28 PM
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Pastor Poster,

I may get strung up for this but this is what I think.

Men's ministry fails because it ends up being one more time for someone to get the men together and tell them how they should act.

Far too often churches end up thinking every get together is an opportunity to teach a lesson or preach a sermon.

where men are concerned, I don't think that is the best approach. It OUGHT to be about fellowship.

I believe in teaching. I believe in Sunday school. In fact, I don't think anyone should be allowed in leadership of a church if they aren't involved in Sunday school as either a teacher or a student. period. that includes the music department folk.

I believe in prayer meetings. Churches should have those on a regular basis.

but a men's ministry ought to be about the men and not another chance for Sunday school or a prayer meeting.

But if you want to be effective with a men's ministry, it better be something the men are willing to be a part of. where they can let their guard down and be real. Fish, hunt, camp, play golf, go to ball games. Find things that interest your men and make it something that they can be a part of. Let it be something they can invite friends to and develop Godly relationships with Godly men.

I agree that men need this but why do you think women are any different?

Do you really think we want to hear teaching and preaching every time we get together? Do you think women don't need time to "let their guard down", relax, have fun, develop relationships with Godly women and be able to invite non-church friends without having to worry about hearing about "magic hair" and a list of does and don'ts???

Most ladies meetings totally bore me. To be honest, I rarely attend. I have better things to do.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:33 PM
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I agree that men need this but why do you think women are any different?

Do you really think we want to hear teaching and preaching every time we get together? Do you think women don't need time to "let their guard down", relax, have fun, develop relationships with Godly women and be able to invite non-church friends without having to worry about hearing about "magic hair" and a list of does and don'ts???

Most ladies meetings totally bore me. To be honest, I rarely attend. I have better things to do.
sister lady rev, in reviewing my post here, I dont find where I made any reference what so ever to women in any shape form or fashion.

I dont mean to be unkind. I do certainly respect you, but this thread is about mens ministry. it isnt about comparing men and women.

you did that. I replied in kind.

then I posted to address the question.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:09 PM
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sister lady rev, in reviewing my post here, I dont find where I made any reference what so ever to women in any shape form or fashion.

I dont mean to be unkind. I do certainly respect you, but this thread is about mens ministry. it isnt about comparing men and women.

you did that. I replied in kind.

then I posted to address the question.
Ummmm...I quote, you said, "where men are concerned...". If thats not a reference towards the EXCLUSION of women, I need to go back to english class.

I don't mean to be unkind either but...men comment on women's issues constantly so I definitely will never hesitate to comment on a men's thread.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:15 PM
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Ummmm...I quote, you said, "where men are concerned...". If thats not a reference towards the EXCLUSION of women, I need to go back to english class.

I don't mean to be unkind either but...men comment on women's issues constantly so I definitely will never hesitate to comment on a men's thread.
I think your looking for something that isnt there.


where men are concerned is a reference to this thread and the question asked here.

Sister it appears to me you have a lady sized chip on your shoulder. Believe me. if I want to roll sexist, I can. I know how. this isnt that. and let me say that it is a little irritating to see you go to this place. It boarderline feminism.

if you want to comment be my guest. have at it. tell us what you think mens ministry ought to be or tell us about a successful one you know of.

but please dont walk in and bash men to make you feel better or find some derogatory compairison where none was offered.
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I think your looking for something that isnt there.


where men are concerned is a reference to this thread and the question asked here.

Sister it appears to me you have a lady sized chip on your shoulder. Believe me. if I want to roll sexist, I can. I know how. this isnt that. and let me say that it is a little irritating to see you go to this place. It boarderline feminism.

if you want to comment be my guest. have at it. tell us what you think mens ministry ought to be or tell us about a successful one you know of.

but please dont walk in and bash men to make you feel better or find some derogatory compairison where none was offered.
I'm honestly not looking for anything. I just saw an opportunity for a little fun with some friendly jabs.

But now you really have me curious.

Do you accuse men that comment on ladies threads of having "men sized chips" on their shoulders when they make observations comparing the sexes?

Do you defend women that are spoken of in a derogatory manner in regards to hair, pants, make up, jewelry, submission, etc.?

Why do you throw out the "feminism" card over gender comparisons on this thread when they take place all the time all over the board?
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I don't mean to be unkind either but...men comment on women's issues constantly so I definitely will never hesitate to comment on a men's thread.
That's what happens when you let that evil old feminist spirit control your thinking for you!! SILENCE!!
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:46 PM
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I agree that men need this but why do you think women are any different?

Do you really think we want to hear teaching and preaching every time we get together? Do you think women don't need time to "let their guard down", relax, have fun, develop relationships with Godly women and be able to invite non-church friends without having to worry about hearing about "magic hair" and a list of does and don'ts???

Most ladies meetings totally bore me. To be honest, I rarely attend. I have better things to do.
That's what y'all have Wal-Mart for. Women's Fellowship Headquarters>The local Wally-world. Now shooo!!
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