Do You Believe in Human Dignity?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Didn't God command the killing of innocent people at times? I think to be murder it has to be more than just the killing of the innocent.

No, he didn't.

Entire nations were judged, and executed accordingly.

However, that in no wise fits in with New Testament Christianity.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

No, he didn't.

Entire nations were judged, and executed accordingly.

However, that in no wise fits in with New Testament Christianity.

So God gives a hypothetical where a man accidently drops a stone and kills someone else. The man who dropped the stone is innocent yet...

[if] the avenger of blood finds him outside the city, the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty of murder.

Is this not similar to our justice system where it is possible that mistakes can be made? Though not nearly the number that some claim.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

So God gives a hypothetical where a man accidently drops a stone and kills someone else. The man who dropped the stone is innocent yet...

[if] the avenger of blood finds him outside the city, the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty of murder.

Is this not similar to our justice system where it is possible that mistakes can be made? Though not nearly the number that some claim.

I tend to get uncomfortable when folk start trying to apply OT law without NT principle.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

So God gives a hypothetical where a man accidently drops a stone and kills someone else. The man who dropped the stone is innocent yet...

[if] the avenger of blood finds him outside the city, the avenger of blood may kill the accused without being guilty of murder.

Is this not similar to our justice system where it is possible that mistakes can be made? Though not nearly the number that some claim.

Are you honestly advocating OT law?

Eye for an eye?

Wow!

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Human dignity refers to a state of righteousness, integrity, or virtue in human beings. The term dignity is defined as "the state of being worthy of honour or respect."

Do you believe in the concept of human dignity?

Yes most definitely.

I do have a question though.

Do you think it isn't showing human dignity to wish Rosie O wouldn't have came to SJ (one hours drive from my house) with a whole pile of gay and lesbian couples and some of them were married while they were here?

Because I wish she'd have stayed away.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

Yes most definitely.

I do have a question though.

Do you think it isn't showing human dignity to wish Rosie O wouldn't have came to SJ (one hours drive from my house) with a whole pile of gay and lesbian couples and some of them were married while they were here?

Because I wish she'd have stayed away.

Treating people with dignity and respect does not mean we must agree with their belief system or lifestyle.

[Mrs. LPW]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Treating people with dignity and respect does not mean we must agree with their belief system or lifestyle.

I wasn't sure if I was on your mind when you asked your question... so I wanted to make sure!
I didn't think I was, since Mrs. LPW is perfect.
We all know that.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I tend to get uncomfortable when folk start trying to apply OT law without NT principle.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Are you honestly advocating OT law?

Eye for an eye?

Wow!

I'm not applying OT law. I am demonstrating that under the law a person could be righteous and yet kill the innocent. And this passage in Numbers is how we define murder in Western Civilization

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

I wasn't sure if I was on your mind when you asked your question... so I wanted to make sure!
I didn't think I was, since Mrs. LPW is perfect.
We all know that.

lol

No, an example of a lack of human dignity would be to call them a bunch of lewd names that we Pentecostals seem to think are perfectly okay to say because we are sometimes very self-righteous.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I'm not applying OT law. I am demonstrating that under the law a person could be righteous and yet kill the innocent. And this passage in Numbers is how we define murder in Western Civilization

I do not believe OT law, apart from NT interpretation, should be our guide.