Do you believe in Pentecostal Shouting?

#1 07-17-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

never even heard of that- explain what you mean

I hope he is kidding... I think he is

StMark · #2 07-17-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

I hope he is kidding... I think he is

nope- never heard of the Lord being married to a
backslider. maybe I've heard of it put a dif. way
and don't recognize it by that term

BrotherEastman · #3 07-17-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

I hope he is kidding... I think he is

Don't worry about whether or not I'm kidding until you can show conclusive biblical proof that we are not to shout. LOL! ;-)

#4 07-17-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Don't worry about whether or not I'm kidding until you can show conclusive biblical proof that we are not to shout. LOL! ;-)

Actually, I will let you go first and givie biblical proof.. or examples of any shouting in the scriptures... bearing in mind that the word shout in scripture has nothing to do with body movement.. but rather loud vocal expression

I would love to see your scriptural examples of one PENTECOSTAL JERK and SHOUT in the scriptures... and then I will be happy to give my proof why we should not JERK UNCONTROLLABLY AND SHOUT

BrotherEastman · #5 07-18-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Actually, I will let you go first and givie biblical proof.. or examples of any shouting in the scriptures... bearing in mind that the word shout in scripture has nothing to do with body movement.. but rather loud vocal expression

I would love to see your scriptural examples of one PENTECOSTAL JERK and SHOUT in the scriptures... and then I will be happy to give my proof why we should not JERK UNCONTROLLABLY AND SHOUT

I figured you would try to deflect, sorry doc, the burden of proof is upon you to prove that it isn't allright to shout, not me. You brought it up, so the challenge is upon you. I'll be waiting patiently, then I'll give you scripture to back my claim that it is okay to shout. If you cannot provide scritural text, then do not expect an answer from me.

*for the record, I personally don't "jerk" as you would say, but I've seen people under the influence of the Holy Ghost do strange things*

#6 07-18-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I figured you would try to deflect, sorry doc, the burden of proof is upon you to prove that it isn't allright to shout, not me. You brought it up, so the challenge is upon you. I'll be waiting patiently, then I'll give you scripture to back my claim that it is okay to shout. If you cannot provide scritural text, then do not expect an answer from me.

*for the record, I personally don't "jerk" as you would say, but I've seen people under the influence of the Holy Ghost do strange things*

Wrong precious brother... I did'nt stat this thread.. nor did I begin a dialoge with you..... so it is I who patiently wait..

Lets begin with the 1st scripture in this arsenal

"Let all things be done in decency and order"
Does out of control jerking and shouting, rolling in the floor like like decency and Order to you?

Especially when they tell you afterwards..."Something just took over me... I couldn't help what I was doing"

Order is control..... so if you had no control,,, you had no ORDER......

We will begin with that one

Or what about Keeping your foot in the house of God......

Ok I promised only 1 to start with.. your turn

BrotherEastman · #7 07-18-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn

Wrong precious brother... I did'nt stat this thread.. nor did I begin a dialoge with you..... so it is I who patiently wait..

Lets begin with the 1st scripture in this arsenal

"Let all things be done in decency and order"
Does out of control jerking and shouting, rolling in the floor like like decency and Order to you?

Especially when they tell you afterwards..."Something just took over me... I couldn't help what I was doing"

Order is control..... so if you had no control,,, you had no ORDER......

We will begin with that one

Or what about Keeping your foot in the house of God......

Ok I promised only 1 to start with.. your turn

Okay doc; If God is in control, then anyway one worships is NOT out of order; however, I will concede that there are those that may not allow the Spirit of God to work in thier lives but will perhaps put on a show. (but who am I, or who are you to determine this?) Now, since you TRIED to produce something for your argument, let me give you the real breakdown my friend. II Corinthians 3:17 (quoting the apostle that you quoted) "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty". The "liberty" spoken here is the liberty that the Spirit of the Lord wills, not what we will. If the Holy Spirit is designed to work in our lives, who are we to say He will not give us the unction to act accordingly? So, I suppose your right about the "UNCONTROLLED" movements; however, God is in CONTROL even in our worship (that includes shouting).
BTW, Since it is your argument, please show a specific scripture to back your claim. There are 80% of us that would like to see it.

#8 07-18-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Okay doc; If God is in control, then anyway one worships is NOT out of order; however, I will concede that there are those that may not allow the Spirit of God to work in thier lives but will perhaps put on a show. (but who am I, or who are you to determine this?) Now, since you TRIED to produce something for your argument, let me give you the real breakdown my friend. II Corinthians 3:17 (quoting the apostle that you quoted) "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty". The "liberty" spoken here is the liberty that the Spirit of the Lord wills, not what we will. If the Holy Spirit is designed to work in our lives, who are we to say He will not give us the unction to act accordingly? So, I suppose your right about the "UNCONTROLLED" movements; however, God is in CONTROL even in our worship (that includes shouting).
BTW, Since it is your argument, please show a specific scripture to back your claim. There are 80% of us that would like to see it.

True Liberty is the ability to overcome your own emotions and submit to the teaching of Gods Word.....

B_Kendrick · #9 07-18-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Okay doc; If God is in control, then anyway one worships is NOT out of order; however, I will concede that there are those that may not allow the Spirit of God to work in thier lives but will perhaps put on a show. (but who am I, or who are you to determine this?) Now, since you TRIED to produce something for your argument, let me give you the real breakdown my friend. II Corinthians 3:17 (quoting the apostle that you quoted) "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty". The "liberty" spoken here is the liberty that the Spirit of the Lord wills, not what we will. If the Holy Spirit is designed to work in our lives, who are we to say He will not give us the unction to act accordingly? So, I suppose your right about the "UNCONTROLLED" movements; however, God is in CONTROL even in our worship (that includes shouting).
BTW, Since it is your argument, please show a specific scripture to back your claim. There are 80% of us that would like to see it.

Thats exactly right! People mistake putting on a show, for the spirit really touching somebody!