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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
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I believe the point he was making is that no Jew would have ever tolerated MAN being GOD as they knew better.. God is a Spirit
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Yet they missed Him, even with all the scriptures telling them of His coming.
Yes God is a spirit, and God is Love, etc.
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07-23-2008, 04:48 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
with this knowledge and their trying to be faithful to their understanding of God.. that "god is not a man" and countless other scriptures that tell them to have no other God before them.... I wonder if I don't believe what John Hagee is saying in his book "In defense of Israel" if this will really be held to their charge.... just wondering
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07-23-2008, 04:59 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
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with this knowledge and their trying to be faithful to their understanding of God.. that "god is not a man" and countless other scriptures that tell them to have no other God before them.... I wonder if I don't believe what John Hagee is saying in his book "In defense of Israel" if this will really be held to their charge.... just wondering
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Jesus did not give them a way out because they were Jews. They did not believe Jesus when he said, I and my Father are one. So I don't think they did or will get a special pass because they believed the Law that Jesus came to fulfill and not Jesus himself.
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07-23-2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
with this knowledge and their trying to be faithful to their understanding of God.. that "god is not a man" and countless other scriptures that tell them to have no other God before them.... I wonder if I don't believe what John Hagee is saying in his book "In defense of Israel" if this will really be held to their charge.... just wondering
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Except Roman 1 states that ALL men know God. They know Him enough that they are responsible.
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07-23-2008, 05:04 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
Did God not BLIND THEIR EYES? for the gentiles sake?
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07-23-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
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Did God not BLIND THEIR EYES? for the gentiles sake?
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Brother, some believed and some didn't. Like the gentile's some believe, some don't.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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07-23-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
if one believes in the Sovereignty of God.... was it not in Gods plan fo r the gospel to reach the gentiles? Had the Jews had their eyes opened.. would it not have doomed the gentile?
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07-23-2008, 06:39 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
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Is Jesus"God," or the "Son of God"? He must be one or the other! Christianity cannot have it both ways! Since there is only one "Lord God" of the Old and New Testaments, only He can be God, and Jesus is His virgin born "Son." Jesus absolutely cannot be both!
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Can some one show me where he backs this assertion up? He tries to show Jesus is the Son of God from scripture. He tries to show Jesus is the Son of man from scripture. Fine, but what is his evidence that Jesus can't be both God and Son of God? What is his evidence to back his assertion "Christianity CAN'T have it both ways"?
Anyone can try to make an argument that Jesus is God or isn't God or point out the bible says Jesus is the Son of God, but that doesn't tell me his basis for his assertion
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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07-23-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
if one believes in the Sovereignty of God.... was it not in Gods plan fo r the gospel to reach the gentiles? Had the
It was always in God's plan.
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The OT prophecies of this
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-23-2008, 07:04 PM
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Re: Interesting Quotes from Joel Hemphills new boo
[QUOTE=Praxeas;541872]
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
if one believes in the Sovereignty of God.... was it not in Gods plan fo r the gospel to reach the gentiles? Had the
It was always in God's plan. The OT prophecies of this
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PRAX,, I couldn't make out what point you were trying to make.. are you supporting the idea that the Jews were predestined to not accept Christ for the Gentiles sake? or vica versa
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