My Signature Diagram

[U376977]

Originally Posted by Timmy

The diagram makes six statements. Which ones do you disagree with?

1. The Father is not The Son
2. The Father is not The Holy Spirit
3. The Holy Spirit is not The Son
4. The Father is God
5. God is The Son
6. God is The Holy Spirit

I'm going to get all mathematical on you again, but I have to point out that "God is The Son" is equivalent to "The Son is God", if "is" is commutative. And again, this is true if "God" is a name or proper noun, not an adjective (getting all grammatical again!). I used the orderings I did because that's how the diagram shows them.

I really do love your mind. You seem to dissect, turn over every rock, look in every hole, and analyze, analyze and analyze. That approach would be perfect for a project development team. But enough about your career possibilities.

I think this is the wrong approach for this diagram and the subject of the Godhead in general.

You post the diagram says 6 things. It does, but it does not. How one interpets just one (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) will change the meaing of all the other five. All 6 statements form one understanding of the diagram; they are all interdependant of each other.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by U376977

I really do love your mind. You seem to dissect, turn over every rock, look in every hole, and analyze, analyze and analyze. That approach would be perfect for a project development team. But enough about your career possibilities.

I think this is the wrong approach for this diagram and the subject of the Godhead in general.

You post the diagram says 6 things. It does, but it does not. How one interpets just one (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) will change the meaing of all the other five. All 6 statements form one understanding of the diagram; they are all interdependant of each other.

I think each point, Father, Son, Spirit, and God need to be defined. Here's some definitions for Father, Son, and Spirit that I personally like and agree with:

Father: God transcendent. God in His existence above and beyond Creation and the Incarnation.

Son: God incarnate- the Theanthropos. In the Incarnation, God added to His divine nature a genuine human nature, and then began to exist through this human nature, in contradistinction to His continued existence as transcendent God (Father).

Holy Spirit: God immanent. God existing as active and present in the physical universe, temporally and spatially.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I think each point, Father, Son, Spirit, and God need to be defined. Here's some definitions for Father, Son, and Spirit that I personally like and agree with:

Father: God transcendent. God in His existence above and beyond Creation and the Incarnation.

Son: God incarnate- the Theanthropos. In the Incarnation, God added to His divine nature a genuine human nature, and then began to exist through this human nature, in contradistinction to His continued existence as transcendent God (Father).

Holy Spirit: God immanent. God existing as active and present in the physical universe, temporally and spatially.

Agreed!

I believe sometimes we as oneness belivers are hesitant to state it this way for fear of sounding like we believe in three Gods. Nope - just one.