Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
If she wasn't battered I think it would be harder to explain. An emotionally stable woman doesn't kill her husband over a money scheme.
Who said she was emotionally stable? I think it is pretty clear that any woman who kills her husband by shooting him in the back while he is asleep when there is zero evidence of any physical abuse is not emotionally stable.
Most killers are not emotionally stable. Doesn't excuse their behaviour.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by CC1
Who said she was emotionally stable? I think it is pretty clear that any woman who kills her husband by shooting him in the back while he is asleep when there is zero evidence of any physical abuse is not emotionally stable.
Most killers are not emotionally stable. Doesn't excuse their behaviour.
Exactly and if she is emotionally unstable that led her to kill was she evaluated by a psychologist before release?
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
I find it incredible that people can discredit emotional abuse and give so much credence to physical abuse. HELLO...Emotional abuse is just as real and sometimes more damaging than physical abuse. Nobody knows what this woman endured but this woman. I am not defending her or saying her sentence was "fair" but she had her time in court and that is what was decided.
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by TalkLady
I find it incredible that people can discredit emotional abuse and give so much credence to physical abuse. HELLO...Emotional abuse is just as real and sometimes more damaging than physical abuse. Nobody knows what this woman endured but this woman.
HELLO yourself,
So you think she was justified in shooting her husband in the back and leaving him to die on the floor?
You think 12 days in prison and two months in a mental health facility for murder is appropriate?
You think a woman unstable enough to murder her husband should have custody of her children?
All when there is zero evidence of ANY abuse physical or mental?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by CC1
HELLO yourself,
So you think she was justified in shooting her husband in the back and leaving him to die on the floor?
You think less than two years in prison for murder is appropriate?
You think a woman unstable enough to murder her husband should have custody of her children?
All when there is zero evidence of ANY abuse physical or mental?
CC1, I added to my post while you were typing this...Please reread after my additions. No, I don't think she was justified. No, I don't think that sentence was appropriate. No, as far as custody, I think all of that should be supervised visits with the grandparents.
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
If she wasn't battered I think it would be harder to explain. An emotionally stable woman doesn't kill her husband over a money scheme.
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Originally Posted by CC1
Who said she was emotionally stable? I think it is pretty clear that any woman who kills her husband by shooting him in the back while he is asleep when there is zero evidence of any physical abuse is not emotionally stable.
Most killers are not emotionally stable. Doesn't excuse their behaviour.
Read Baron's post - - that's exactly what he was saying - - - an emotionally stable woman doesn't kill her husband.
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Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by TalkLady
CC1, I added to my post while you were typing this...Please reread after my additions.
I read your edited post and edited mine because she did not spend two years in prison as I first stated. It was a whopping 12 days in jail plus two months in a mental health facility.
I don't have to be happy with what the court decided and I am not. There are many instances of justice being thwarted and this is one of them.
Then for her to get her children back on top of it all is absolutely a mockery of justice.
Even if she had been psychologically abused as her late to the game charge was she should not be seen as mentally able to have custody of her girls after her horrific crime.
The only consolation is that God knows the truth and he will mete out the ultimate justice if she does not truly repent and make things right with God.
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
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Originally Posted by TalkLady
I find it incredible that people can discredit emotional abuse and give so much credence to physical abuse. HELLO...Emotional abuse is just as real and sometimes more damaging than physical abuse. Nobody knows what this woman endured but this woman. I am not defending her or saying her sentence was "fair" but she had her time in court and that is what was decided.
Nobody was crediting or discrediting anything. Nobody knows IF this woman endured anything at all, that does not justify killing the man though.
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Re: Murderer Pastor's Wife Regains Custody of Chil
1. She said that they argued over money
2. She had lost close to $20,000 in a Nigerian scam
3. She told the police that after arguing "her evil came out"
4. She shot him in the back while he was sleeping
5. He was alive and pleading after she shot him
6. She unplugged the phone so he couldn't call for help
7. She took her daughters to the beach
8. She fled to Alabama
If those "she"s were "he"s...I dare say we would not be having this conversation
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