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Old 08-14-2008, 10:09 AM
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An Iranian Movie...made in a culture that accepts polygamous marriages on the tragedy of such.

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Leila

Directed by Dariush Mehrjui
Produced by Dariush Mehrjui
Written by Dariush Mehrjui, Mahnaz Ansarian
Starring Leila Hatami,
Ali Mosaffa,
Jamileh Sheikhi,
Mohamad Reza Sharifinia,
Turan Mehrzad,
Amir Pievar,
Shaghayegh Farahani,

Release date(s) 1996
Running time 102 minutes
Language Persian
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Leila is an Iranian movie directed by Dariush Mehrjui.


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Iranian filmmaker Dariush Mehrjui (Gaav) directed and co-wrote this tale of a woman's dissolving marriage in contemporary Iran. Leila (Leila Hatami) meets her future husband, Reza (Ali Mosaffa), when a friend brings him to a family event. Two months later, they're married, and things seem to be blissful. The middle-class couple has a playful and loving relationship, but their happiness is jeopardized when they discover that Leila cannot bear children. As the couple tries various tests and alternate methods of conception to no avail, Reza continually reassures Leila that it's not important to him to have children -- only to be with her. But Reza is the only male child in his family, and his mother (Jamileh Sheikhi), an old-fashioned woman, is determined for him to have a son to continue the family line. She continually harangues Leila, telling her that Reza desperately wants a child, even if he insists to Leila that he doesn't. Eventually all the pressure from Reza's mother and her own feelings of inadequacy get to Leila, and she agrees to allow Reza to take a second wife who can have his child. As the couple grow more despondent and uncertain as to how to please one another, Reza, unable to assuage Leila's guilt, reluctantly agrees to meet several women his mother has selected as potential second wives. At first, Reza and Leila joke about the unsuitability of the women he's fixed up with, and rediscover some of the joy in their own loving marriage, but eventually their resistance wears down, and they both give in to his mother's wishes. ~ Josh Ralske, All Movie Guide
As pointed out before FLAWED LOGIC! You are comparing apples with oranges. Let's get a documentary of the the spouse abuse in America that has been rampant for year and happens under monogamy! Doesn't mean monogamy is bad! According to your logic it is!
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:37 AM
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As pointed out before FLAWED LOGIC! You are comparing apples with oranges. Let's get a documentary of the the spouse abuse in America that has been rampant for year and happens under monogamy! Doesn't mean monogamy is bad! According to your logic it is!
This movie isn't even about spousal abuse. Maybe you should watch it.
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As pointed out before FLAWED LOGIC! You are comparing apples with oranges. Let's get a documentary of the the spouse abuse in America that has been rampant for year and happens under monogamy! Doesn't mean monogamy is bad! According to your logic it is!
OH! Give me a break! From the get-go of this thread we have been emphasizing that we are discussing the MODERN practice of polygamy - not disputing the OT or ancient practice of polygamy used to "be fruitful and multiply" the human population.

We're talking about God's IDEAL here and lining up marriage and the treatment of women as becomes a CHRISTIAN.

If you can't get that...then you are full of HOOEY!!!
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OH! Give me a break! From the get-go of this thread we have been emphasizing that we are discussing the MODERN practice of polygamy - not disputing the OT or ancient practice of polygamy used to "be fruitful and multiply" the human population.

We're talking about God's IDEAL here and lining up marriage and the treatment of women as becomes a CHRISTIAN.

If you can't get that...then you are full of HOOEY!!!
Don't forget, Dora, that in the beginning, when people needed to be fruitful and multiply the MOST.....at the outset in the garden of Eden, that God gave Adam ONE wife. I stand by my original statements that the men here arguing for polygamy are just arguing based on their own fleshly lusts and simply hiding behind what they wish was biblical precedent in support of it.

Luke2447 won't even say that monogamy is ideal. He thinks polygamy is just as good. Ignorance on this list never does cease. Too bad God didn't give Adam Eve, Sally and Bessy. Then he might have a case. But God knew what he was doing. He actually cares about the needs of women rather than run roughshod over them.
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Don't forget, Dora, that in the beginning, when people needed to be fruitful and multiply the MOST.....at the outset in the garden of Eden, that God gave Adam ONE wife. I stand by my original statements that the men here arguing for polygamy are just arguing based on their own fleshly lusts and simply hiding behind what they wish was biblical precedent in support of it.

Luke2447 won't even say that monogamy is ideal. He thinks polygamy is just as good. Ignorance on this list never does cease. Too bad God didn't give Adam Eve, Sally and Bessy. Then he might have a case. But God knew what he was doing. He actually cares about the needs of women rather than run roughshod over them.
I never said ANY are IDEAL it depends on the individual! God did give wives to David so it MUST have been ideal. So don't act like it wasn't God's will or someone forced his hand. Just as God gave Adam his wife and possibly wives according to some Jewish beliefs so did God give David his. Stop trying to make your idea of IDEAL marriage a must when the Bible does not say what is and can only be speculation on your part. Also it is IDEAL that we do many things that we DON'T do but should that are not salvation issues but each does according to there OWN will. Usually women are the majority of ones to make a fuss because in most cases is a matter of pride and lusts of there own flesh. They want there own power and not to have to deal with other women as we all know how those cat fights go.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:25 AM
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Don't forget, Dora, that in the beginning, when people needed to be fruitful and multiply the MOST.....at the outset in the garden of Eden, that God gave Adam ONE wife. I stand by my original statements that the men here arguing for polygamy are just arguing based on their own fleshly lusts and simply hiding behind what they wish was biblical precedent in support of it.

Luke2447 won't even say that monogamy is ideal. He thinks polygamy is just as good. Ignorance on this list never does cease. Too bad God didn't give Adam Eve, Sally and Bessy. Then he might have a case. But God knew what he was doing. He actually cares about the needs of women rather than run roughshod over them.
DORA, See my above comments THAT NOT EVERYONE IS arguing the same point as you!!
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