Witchcraft = medication

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Oneness Man

No, this doesn't settle because there are people on here that don't trust God completely to be able to heal them without medication, but it is completely understandable since we live in a pill world. The carnal mind only thinks about using medication for a cure all and don't seek God to heal them. Now, that is one of the things wrong in Apostolic circles today.

Why does one have to stop life saving treatment before God can heal them anyways? You ever try, you and your spouse, to just quit your jobs and expect God to supply your every need for the rest of your lives? And clearly some DO die or not get healed who have shunned treatment....yet had they got treatment they or their child would be alive.

Why do you keep adding the "without medication"? You don't know the faith of anyone on this board. They were using "cures" way back in the bible days too and when they trusted in Jesus he did not say "no, you went to the Dr first so I won't heal you"

Also great faith? The bible says all you need is the faith the size of a mustard seed and that we ALL have a measure of faith. So this carnal test of yours to divide between those that have GREAT FAITH (yourself) and others is flawed and sounds like it comes more from the carnal man than anything else. Paul told Timothy to use a little wine for his stomach problems....why not just tell him to trust God and be healed and not try something "carnal"?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why does one have to stop life saving treatment before God can heal them anyways? You ever try, you and your spouse, to just quit your jobs and expect God to supply your every need for the rest of your lives? And clearly some DO die or not get healed who have shunned treatment....yet had they got treatment they or their child would be alive.

Why do you keep adding the "without medication"? You don't know the faith of anyone on this board. They were using "cures" way back in the bible days too and when they trusted in Jesus he did not say "no, you went to the Dr first so I won't heal you"

Also great faith? The bible says all you need is the faith the size of a mustard seed and that we ALL have a measure of faith. So this carnal test of yours to divide between those that have GREAT FAITH (yourself) and others is flawed and sounds like it comes more from the carnal man than anything else. Paul told Timothy to use a little wine for his stomach problems....why not just tell
him to trust God and be healed and not try something "carnal"?

Prax, you know the position is one of faulty exegesis and not understanding the historical context at the time of the writing.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why does one have to stop life saving treatment before God can heal them anyways? You ever try, you and your spouse, to just quit your jobs and expect God to supply your every need for the rest of your lives? And clearly some DO die or not get healed who have shunned treatment....yet had they got treatment they or their child would be alive.

Why do you keep adding the "without medication"? You don't know the faith of anyone on this board. They were using "cures" way back in the bible days too and when they trusted in Jesus he did not say "no, you went to the Dr first so I won't heal you"

Also great faith? The bible says all you need is the faith the size of a mustard seed and that we ALL have a measure of faith. So this carnal test of yours to divide between those that have GREAT FAITH (yourself) and others is flawed and sounds like it comes more from the carnal man than anything else. Paul told Timothy to use a little wine for his stomach problems....why not just tell him to trust God and be healed and not try something "carnal"?

That question has been asked and ignored several times now. He won't answer it.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Why does one have to stop life saving treatment before God can heal them anyways?

Why does one have to rely on doctors and medication before God can heal them?

You ever try, you and your spouse, to just quit your jobs and expect God to supply your every need for the rest of your lives?

Have you?

And clearly some DO die or not get healed who have shunned treatment....yet had they got treatment they or their child would be alive.

Are you saying that everyone that gets treatment will be alive?

Why do you keep adding the "without medication"?

Because this thread is about medication and many of you keep changing the subject.

You don't know the faith of anyone on this board.

How do you know that I don't know the faith of anyone on this board? Have you asked God about it?

They were using "cures" way back in the bible days too and when they trusted in Jesus he did not say "no, you went to the Dr first so I won't heal you"

Where does the Bible say that they used synthetic drugs in the bible days?

Also great faith?

Jesus said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

So this carnal test of yours to divide between those that have GREAT FAITH (yourself) and others is flawed and sounds like it comes more from the carnal man than anything else.

Prove it and quit assuming.

Paul told Timothy to use a little wine for his stomach problems....why not just tell him to trust God and be healed and not try something "carnal"?

wine is alcohol and not synthetic drugs. There is a big difference between the two.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Oneness Man

Why does one have to rely on doctors and medication before God can heal them?

You answer me first since I asked first

Have you?

Again, I asked first

Are you saying that everyone that gets treatment will be alive?

If I wanted to say such a thing I wouldn't speak in riddles. I'd say it in explicit words anyone can understand. So let's just deal with what was written and not put words in each others mouths. Im trying to make some points and hoping to reason with you, but you need to address my questions.

Because this thread is about medication and many of you keep changing the subject.

I didn't change the subject and it appears you are also involved in this current topic. BTW it's really related though.

How do you know that I don't know the faith of anyone on this board? Have you asked God about it?

I know because you are not God.

Where does the Bible say that they used synthetic drugs in the bible days?

Since I never asserted they did I have no idea why you are asking me

Jesus said it, I believe it, and that settles it.

That's nice.

Prove it and quit assuming.

What am I assuming?

wine is alcohol and not synthetic drugs. There is a big difference between the two.

I don't care. That is irrelevant to the point I made. Paul did not tell Timothy to just trust in God and continue to endure his stomach problems. Rather he gave him a treatment option to help him

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Oneness Man

Why does one have to rely on doctors and medication before God can heal them?

Have you asked God that question? It might be a good one to ask Him. I know lots of people who took meds for years before God healed them. I don't know why He did it that way.

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Have you asked God that question?

Why do you assume that I haven't?