Paganism in Christianity

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You better get something other than your Bible or Bible concordance, because it isn't found in either of them.

SHEKINAH [shuh KIGH nuh] (dwelling) — a visible manifestation of the presence of God (also spelled Shechinah and Shekhinah). Although the word is not found in the Bible, it occurs frequently in later Jewish writings. It refers to the instances when God showed Himself visibly, as, for example, on Mount Sinai (Ex. 24:9–18) and in the Holy of Holies of the tabernacle and in Solomon’s Temple. The Shekinah was a luminous cloud that rested above the altar in the place of worship and lit up the room. When the Babylonians destroyed the Temple, the Shekinah glory vanished. There was no Shekinah in the temples rebuilt later under Zerubbabel and Herod.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

SHEKINAH [shuh KIGH nuh] (dwelling) — a visible manifestation of the presence of God (also spelled Shechinah and Shekhinah). Although the word is not found in the Bible, it occurs frequently in later Jewish writings. It refers to the instances when God showed Himself visibly, as, for example, on Mount Sinai (Ex. 24:9–18) and in the Holy of Holies of the tabernacle and in Solomon’s Temple. The Shekinah was a luminous cloud that rested above the altar in the place of worship and lit up the room. When the Babylonians destroyed the Temple, the Shekinah glory vanished. There was no Shekinah in the temples rebuilt later under Zerubbabel and Herod.

Exactly! It is NOT in the Bible. But it is found in Jewish mysticism.

There are some churches that call God "Sophia." That name is a noun as well. It is also a supposed name for God. Like 'Shekinah,' it refers to a female diety. But the biggest issue is that neither of these names were EVER used for God's name or found in the Bible.

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Exactly! It is NOT in the Bible. But it is found in Jewish mysticism.

There are some churches that call God "Sophia." That name is a noun as well. It is also a supposed name for God. Like 'Shekinah,' it refers to a female diety. But the biggest issue is that neither of these names were EVER used for God's name or found in the Bible.

As in the mother of God, worship still carried on today by the RCC.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Exactly! It is NOT in the Bible. But it is found in Jewish mysticism.

There are some churches that call God "Sophia." That name is a noun as well. It is also a supposed name for God. Like 'Shekinah,' it refers to a female diety. But the biggest issue is that neither of these names were EVER used for God's name or found in the Bible.

I don't know where you get your information...the Jewish religious and history books record many things about God that got left out of the King James Version, but it has not been referred to like you have stated in any books I have read.

Blessings, Rhoni

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I don't know where you get your information...the Jewish religious and history books record many things about God that got left out of the King James Version, but it has not been referred to like you have stated in any books I have read.

Blessings, Rhoni

Sister Rhoni,

It was not left out of the King James Bible, it was left out of God's Word. You should take special note of that.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I don't know where you get your information...the Jewish religious and history books record many things about God that got left out of the King James Version, but it has not been referred to like you have stated in any books I have read.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni, he is right.

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I don't know where you get your information...the Jewish religious and history books record many things about God that got left out of the King James Version, but it has not been referred to like you have stated in any books I have read.

Blessings, Rhoni

Sis. Rhoni, get a Encyclopedia and look up Jewish Mysticism. You'll find a lot of things there.

[TCSQ]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

SHEKINAH [shuh KIGH nuh] (dwelling) — a visible manifestation of the presence of God (also spelled Shechinah and Shekhinah). Although the word is not found in the Bible, it occurs frequently in later Jewish writings. It refers to the instances when God showed Himself visibly, as, for example, on Mount Sinai (Ex. 24:9–18) and in the Holy of Holies of the tabernacle and in Solomon’s Temple. The Shekinah was a luminous cloud that rested above the altar in the place of worship and lit up the room. When the Babylonians destroyed the Temple, the Shekinah glory vanished. There was no Shekinah in the temples rebuilt later under Zerubbabel and Herod.

Found this sub topic kind of interesting as since coming into the Apostolic Faith have from the beginning heard that term "The Shekinah Glory" NEVER thought to question its origin. But now that you bring it up, found this link that shows the etymology of the word IN scripture. I will post the link and check it out .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekinah

[TCSQ]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

SHEKINAH [shuh KIGH nuh] (dwelling) — a visible manifestation of the presence of God (also spelled Shechinah and Shekhinah). Although the word is not found in the Bible, it occurs frequently in later Jewish writings. It refers to the instances when God showed Himself visibly, as, for example, on Mount Sinai (Ex. 24:9–18) and in the Holy of Holies of the tabernacle and in Solomon’s Temple. The Shekinah was a luminous cloud that rested above the altar in the place of worship and lit up the room. When the Babylonians destroyed the Temple, the Shekinah glory vanished. There was no Shekinah in the temples rebuilt later under Zerubbabel and Herod.

Yeah, just as I thought. The hebrew word Shakan ***IS*** in the text of the Old Testament. It is the basis for the word we translate Tabernacle, and means to abide, dwell, etc.

SOooooooooo We couldn't say that Shekinah was ever a name or title of God, such as El Olam or Jehovah Tsidkenu, BUT we certainly can use it in its BIBLICAL meaning which reflects the abiding dwelling presence OF Jehovah among his people.

You know what now causes me a little question? How did THIS term find its way into 20th century pentecostal terminology?

I mean, surely the preachers out in podunk california in 1948 were NOT Kabbalists! (Were they???) just kidding.

[TCSQ]

Shakan

The base of the word under discussion "Shekinah" I would say that since the word in Kabbalist and Talmudic usage has taken on almost personhood (Kabbalism could outdo trinitarianism ANYDAY) I would say that on the one hand it is CORRECT to say it is NOT in the text of the Old (ShekinAH) but rather is an EXTRA Biblical word. However its ROOT "Shakan" IS repeatedly.

If Shekinah is a form of the word, rather than a mutation of the word (For example changing the word Present into PresenCE to grammatically use it in speech) then I would see no problem with even saying it is BIBLICAL although you may indeed say that that specific FORM of the word is NOT in the text.