Ray Boltz????

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

This is the reason couple can sit through a HG shockamoo service, dance and fall out in the spirit and still go home and throw dishes and telephones at one another. Divorce in the church is as high as out of the church which shows there is a thin line between the churched and unchurched at times. The HG make a difference in ones life but if the person doesn't allow the HG to fully work then the HG will not destroy all it can due the our hands holding on to issues. The HG is a gentleman and will not over step its welcome boundaries..IMO

I had someone tell me that the reason I left the UPC (like 18 months ago, BTW) and changed my views (I believe they used backslid) was simply so that I could get a divorce now.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I had someone tell me that the reason I left the UPC (like 18 months ago, BTW) and changed my views (I believe they used backslid) was simply so that I could get a divorce now.

Sometimes people can be so insensitive, Mich ....

They're clueless .... ridiculous conspiracy theory, that's for sure ...

[HappyTown]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Sometimes people can be so insensitive, Mich ....

They're clueless .... ridiculous conspiracy theory, that's for sure ...

Mich, I agree with dan here... That crazy!!!

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I had someone tell me that the reason I left the UPC (like 18 months ago, BTW) and changed my views (I believe they used backslid) was simply so that I could get a divorce now.

Well that is the reason then. What a joke. Some people think they are the authority on certain things and only thing they prove is how foolish they do. Professing themselves wise they became fools. Leaving church does not alway directly affect a marriage though it can happen. It is amazing that often times those in the ship can't see out side the ship because of the ship. If you know what I mean.

[U376977]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I had someone tell me that the reason I left the UPC (like 18 months ago, BTW) and changed my views (I believe they used backslid) was simply so that I could get a divorce now.

How calculating of you! You saw it coming 18 months ago! LOL. Sorry, this happened to you, both the church mess and the divorce. I hope and trust that the backslide quote is a misnomer.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Sometimes people can be so insensitive, Mich ....

They're clueless .... ridiculous conspiracy theory, that's for sure ...

I learned long ago, that no matter what you do, there is always going to be someone who doesn't approve. That's why at the end of the day, there is only one opinion that matters!

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Well that is the reason then. What a joke. Some people think they are the authority on certain things and only thing they prove is how foolish they do. Professing themselves wise they became fools. Leaving church does not alway directly affect a marriage though it can happen. It is amazing that often times those in the ship can't see out side the ship because of the ship. If you know what I mean.

I do! I thought it was kind of funny by the way.

Originally Posted by U376977

How calculating of you! You saw it coming 18 months ago! LOL. Sorry, this happened to you, both the church mess and the divorce. I hope and trust that the backslide quote is a misnomer.

Hmmmm...whether or not I am a backslider depends on your perspective. I would say that a good 90% of the membership of AFF would consider it to be a valid title. I suppose we could do a poll..... LOL

I of course, consider myself to be...ah...frontslid...I guess

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I learned long ago, that no matter what you do, there is always going to be someone who doesn't approve. That's why at the end of the day, there is only one opinion that matters!



I do! I thought it was kind of funny by the way.



Hmmmm...whether or not I am a backslider depends on your perspective. I would say that a good 90% of the membership of AFF would consider it to be a valid title. I suppose we could do a poll..... LOL

I of course, consider myself to be...ah...frontslid...I guess

Backsliders generally know they are backslidden and don't deny the faith, they just are not living it. Those that deny the faith are reprobates
I consider Mich to be reprobate concerning the faith, not backslidden

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Backsliders generally know they are backslidden and don't deny the faith, they just are not living it. Those that deny the faith are reprobates
I consider Mich to be reprobate concerning the faith, not backslidden

I thought we couldn't use that word, reprobate.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I thought we couldn't use that word, reprobate.

Says who?

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Backsliders generally know they are backslidden and don't deny the faith, they just are not living it. Those that deny the faith are reprobates
I consider Mich to be reprobate concerning the faith, not backslidden

It depends again on what you mean by "the faith". Do I believe in God? Yes. Do I believe that Jesus is God? yes. Do I believe in Salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone? Yeeeessss..... (That was me kind of wavering on that one...because whereas I believe it, at the same time, I have a hard time casting anyone into hell for any reason, or deciding who is or is not saved).

But I have issues with the Bible, with Church, and with most theology, doctrine and traditions.

Now one could say that I am still working through my issues, or one could say that I have completely walked away. Again, all a matter of perspective.

Originally Posted by Berkeley

I thought we couldn't use that word, reprobate.

Berk, it doesn't bother me in the least. I have in fact used the word as a description of myself in the past. By Prax's definition, I AM a reprobate. (though according to my beliefs, I obviously am not )