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Old 09-15-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: The Ultimate Wall Street Nightmare

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OK, someone go find PP and take a defibraltor....

even I am on the verge of panic..... not quite but almost.


we have had bank failures before..... over a thousand in 1989.

things are certainly not real good right now that is for sure.
That is true, but look at the possible exposure to the FDIC and there is no way they can stand behind all the deposits--if the domino effect takes place.

That is why I posted this...I read this kind of stuff everyday. I hope that a few people can bind together in prayer for our country and for this coming election. We are need of a miracle. Wilkerson wrote a few years ago that we could see housing crash up to 70% of its value. Some areas of the country are at 30% and continuing to fall.

There has been negative HPA before---but never on a national level. Since records have been kept the nation has enjoyed home price appreciation. Remember the addage--as goes housing so goes the economy. Economists I have read write that there has never been a recovery without housing. The housing market must turn around--many people think that the economy is in a minor bump, judging by GDP and the meager groweth, but we could be on the opening wave of a major downturn and many quarters of negative groweth. The worst housing market in modern histroy=the worst economy in history, fed and Paulson cannot keep it propped up indefinately.

We need to watch the FOMB action this week and the target funds rate. If they lower to 1.75% the real rate is already at a -negative. Another .25 in the negative will definately mean higher fuel, groceries, clothes etc. Another squeeze on the pocketbooks.
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Old 09-15-2008, 04:45 PM
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Re: The Ultimate Wall Street Nightmare

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That is true, but look at the possible exposure to the FDIC and there is no way they can stand behind all the deposits--if the domino effect takes place.

That is why I posted this...I read this kind of stuff everyday. I hope that a few people can bind together in prayer for our country and for this coming election. We are need of a miracle. Wilkerson wrote a few years ago that we could see housing crash up to 70% of its value. Some areas of the country are at 30% and continuing to fall.

There has been negative HPA before---but never on a national level. Since records have been kept the nation has enjoyed home price appreciation. Remember the addage--as goes housing so goes the economy. Economists I have read write that there has never been a recovery without housing. The housing market must turn around--many people think that the economy is in a minor bump, judging by GDP and the meager groweth, but we could be on the opening wave of a major downturn and many quarters of negative groweth. The worst housing market in modern histroy=the worst economy in history, fed and Paulson cannot keep it propped up indefinately.

We need to watch the FOMB action this week and the target funds rate. If they lower to 1.75% the real rate is already at a -negative. Another .25 in the negative will definately mean higher fuel, groceries, clothes etc. Another squeeze on the pocketbooks.
clearly there is issues. big issues. but disaster that some are suggesting this is.... Obama likening it to the great depression is at the very least outrageous.

unemployment
then:50%
now 6%

Home foreclosures:
then 50%
now 2.75%

Business profets:
then: for 4 years no one made money
now: more than 50% of businesses posted profets in the last quarter.


There are serious issues that need addressing (like why Fannie May and Freddie Mac are getting a free pass)... but relitive stability in this economy remains at least visable.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:05 PM
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Re: The Ultimate Wall Street Nightmare

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clearly there is issues. big issues. but disaster that some are suggesting this is.... Obama likening it to the great depression is at the very least outrageous.

unemployment
then:50%
now 6%

Home foreclosures:
then 50%
now 2.75%

Business profets:
then: for 4 years no one made money
now: more than 50% of businesses posted profets in the last quarter.


There are serious issues that need addressing (like why Fannie May and Freddie Mac are getting a free pass)... but relitive stability in this economy remains at least visable.
Your numbers are skewed ... we'd have to look at the numbers prior to the Great Depression ... to compare apples with apples.
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