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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn
My view is this (since there was a thread on this some time ago in regards to a friend of mine doing the same thing). There are plenty of COGIC churches that baptise in Jesus Name (Or Father, Son, Holy Ghost we do all things in Jesus Name) such as Willie James Campbell out of Chicago IL (St. James COGIC) Nathan Simmons old church (Citadel Of Hope Evagelistic COGIC) and even I have been told GE Pattersons church baptised in Jesus Name HOWEVER the truth is YE MUST BE BORN OF THE WATER AND THE SPIRIT. COGIC teach that you can be saved PRIOR to getting the Holy Ghost (beats me, because I have no clue what saves you then....what....just mere confession) which is what the majority of trinitarian churches teach. They teach the Holy Ghost almost as an option.....yet they "admonish" all believers to ask for the Holy Ghost they do not "require" in their teachings that one must be filled with the Holy Ghost and Bapstised in Jesus Name (which we all know consist of the New Birth Experience). My question to you is what is the pastors motives for staying COGIC if in fact he baptises in Jesus Name? Why not pull out and just be independant. My point exactly, people link up with the COGIC because its an Prestigious African American Pentecostal Body (the largest to be exact) and feel by going PAW or COOLJC or any other black apostolic organization will limit there preaching abilities and limit who they get to fellowship with (concerning congregations). This is why Nathan Simmons left the Oneness faith and went COGIC. This is also the reason why Michael Wilson (another Oneness preacher left and went COGIC). They want prestige. So there is a deeper issue here. Its not just a baptisimal thing. As an organization, the COGIC clearly denies the Oneness Apostolic Message. There is no getting around it. What are you going to do when you go to jursidictional meetings. Just not go.....What are you going to do when its convention time....just not go.....you will be fellowshipping with people who DO NOT believe or subscribe in the teachings of the apostles. Granted, its your choice....but understand this.....joining a COGIC church, your liable to get any and every doctrine being preached from the pulpits. It is what it is, and I am just talking from experience. I'd find me an apostolic church and if you like the dancing and shouting this COGIC is doing, just go over there when you want to dance and shout......or for that matter, sit down with the pastor and talk to him about HIS beliefs versus YOUR beliefs. Just my thoughts.
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I had no idea these guys were formerly Oneness. You are such a fountain of knowledge, bro. :O)
What denominational background was Nathan Simmons before he went trinny? And when did he switch?
And, are you referring to the Michael Wilson who is head of Hope Cathedral COGIC in Atlanta?
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