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Old 10-04-2008, 05:41 PM
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Psychosis? That would almost be funny if it weren't so sad.

Maybe you're unaware of the extent of pro-Obama songs and pro-Obama youth activities that have cropped up this election season.... (such as the abundance of pro-BarackObama songs found on YouTube, many involving children)

Did you hear similar pro-Bush or pro-Clinton youth groups forming in past campaign years? Or pro-Kerry, pro-Gore, etc... ? I think not.

The extent to which people are hailing this man as some kind of political world-changer and political messiah is unprecedented in recent US political history.

Perhaps you think that people who object to having little children singing Obama's praises in this video are also suffering from psychosis also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WICjlrV9ubo
Get real. Obama is far more popular than Bush, Clinton, Kerry, or Gore. And since he's black he makes for a very inspirational leader for troubled who might have strikes of various kinds against them.

Obama is just the first extremely popular political figure we've seen in a generation.

Don't freak out. It will pass.
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:56 PM
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From the Youtube author

There's an update regarding the video with the African American teens shown on YouTube in the video below. This morning, I received a message from a friend named Dan who gave me the address of the school where this video was filmed. This is the name:

URBAN COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP ACADEMY
1524 PASEO BLVD
18th & Vine District, Kansas City, MO
Educational Organization

I called and spoke to Bernard, who said he was the assistant Dean. He was very gentlemanly and when I voiced my concerns about the video, he told me that this was taken at the school last year when Obama was beginning his campaign. He assured me that they stopped this "regiment" because they felt the person who was organizing it was pushing his political agenda.

Duh.

He assured me that he didn't know it was on YouTube. I gave him the link to where to go for this video and when he found it he said, "Oh this is not good. I had no idea" I told him I'd take his word for it. He then asked me, nicely, "what's the main concern? Because I want to understand where you're coming from so that I can figure out how to handle this."

Nicely, I told him that the video looked militant. I told him about the Colburn School video and how it resembles propaganda films from Communist dictatorships. I told him that the US military is frowned upon for going to high schools trying to recruit potential grads into joining their ranks. Why shouldn't we frown upon those who come to a school like yours to encourage kids to worship a politician? One who is not even a president.

I also said that if this was done to make kids feel better about themselves, why do it in the name of Obama? Why not encourage kids to believe in the power of themselves?

He assured me that he would get to the bottom of the situation, thanked me for my call and we hung up.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:43 PM
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You don't find this a little cultic? Because of Obama?
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Maybe since since "Obama", and "Dali Llama" rhyme I could attribute some sort of religious value to this....


NOT!
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Maybe since since "Obama", and "Dali Llama" rhyme I could attribute some sort of religious value to this....


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One does not have to be or have a religion in name to be religious. Anyone or anything can be worshipped.
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One does not have to be or have a religion in name to be religious. Anyone or anything can be worshipped.

I know, I know. I don't think the context of that video is religious.

These guys are "steppin". When I was in HS, I was part of a step team too, though my membership was short lived due to my lack of rhythm. College Fraternities and Sororities also do this kind of stuff to build camaraderie, foster teamwork and pride.

These are good things to instill in people.

I don't think they are engaging in any kind of worship.

I don't think people realize just how big a deal Sen. Obama's candidacy is for so many people, not just young Black males.
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I know what steppin is....that is not the issue. It's what they are saying.
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I know, I know. I don't think the context of that video is religious.

These guys are "steppin". When I was in HS, I was part of a step team too, though my membership was short lived due to my lack of rhythm. College Fraternities and Sororities also do this kind of stuff to build camaraderie, foster teamwork and pride.

These are good things to instill in people.

I don't think they are engaging in any kind of worship.

I don't think people realize just how big a deal Sen. Obama's candidacy is for so many people, not just young Black males.
The issue is not steppin, it's not doing something in rythem, it's not camaraderie, team work or pride...in fact what is said here is not about self pride but pride in Obama.

Did you watch the whole thing and listen to the words?
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One does not have to be or have a religion in name to be religious. Anyone or anything can be worshipped.
Yep. Even....conservatism.
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You don't find this a little cultic? Because of Obama?
The only part that troubled me was the "Alpha, Omega" chant. I don't see anything wrong with young males having a candidate for the presidency for a role model and wanting to become successful.
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