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04-03-2007, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
To truly reject Christ, one must truly know Christ.
NO HUMAN BEING who truly comes to know Christ will reject Him ever.
They may stray, due to weakness of the flesh, but will never deny or reject Christ.
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Nonsense.
You can speak for the rest of humanity in what they will or will not do then base a doctrine on that faulty assumption??
I can reject a Toyota or a Honda without knowing anything about them but just like what I am driving and continue on in my preference even though it may be a piece of junk...
God gave the ultimate sacrifice...no matter who you are you have to apply it to your life...
Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid...
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04-03-2007, 05:07 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Nonsense.
You can speak for the rest of humanity in what they will or will not do then base a doctrine on that faulty assumption??
I can reject a Toyota or a Honda without knowing anything about them but just like what I am driving and continue on in my preference even though it may be a piece of junk...
God gave the ultimate sacrifice...no matter who you are you have to apply it to your life...
Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid...
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With all due respect God is not a Honda or Toyota. He is the Savior of the world.
Roman 5. 12-21 Tells us that what the first Adam did for the human race (condemnation), the second Adam did even more (reconciliation). How much of the race did Adams cause condemnation? Jesus sacrifice covers the same number. The point being that without any effort on your part you were condemned, likewise is the free gift.
Do you continue in sin, of course not, your are reconciled so enter in to life thru Jesus blood. Otherwise you will go thru judgement and punishment (the setting of things right).
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04-03-2007, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
With all due respect God is not a Honda or Toyota. He is the Savior of the world.
Roman 5. 12-21 Tells us that what the first Adam did for the human race (condemnation), the second Adam did even more (reconciliation). How much of the race did Adams cause condemnation? Jesus sacrifice covers the same number. The point being that without any effort on your part you were condemned, likewise is the free gift.
Do you continue in sin, of course not, your are reconciled so enter in to life thru Jesus blood. Otherwise you will go thru judgement and punishment (the setting of things right).
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Just using absurdity to explain absurdity. Your semantics do not make your argument correct...
Sorry, once saved isn't always saved.
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04-03-2007, 09:50 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Just using absurdity to explain absurdity. Your semantics do not make your argument correct...
Sorry, once saved isn't always saved.
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Maybe, just maybe it is absurdity to avoid addressing the plain presentation of the scriptures. 
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04-03-2007, 09:54 PM
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Maybe, just maybe it is absurdity to avoid addressing the plain presentation of the scriptures. |
No maybes. It is useless to discuss plain scripture with one who creates a whole new doctrine other than that found in scripture. I don't find your universal reconciliation anywhere in scripture.
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04-03-2007, 10:11 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
No maybes. It is useless to discuss plain scripture with one who creates a whole new doctrine other than that found in scripture. I don't find your universal reconciliation anywhere in scripture.
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How much have you looked?
( Romans 5. 18) Notice first the parallel structure of the verse: "Therefore just as one man's trespas led to condemnation for all [humans],
so one man's act of righteousnes leads to justification and life for [them] all.
It is not hard to find if you are looking.
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04-03-2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
how much have you looked?
( Romans 5. 18) Notice first the parallel structure of the verse: "Therefore just as one man's trespas led to condemnation for all [humans],
so one man's act of righteousnes leads to justification and life for [them] all.
It is not hard to find if you are looking. |
About 24 years...
It's okay...people add stuff into the Word all the time...
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