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11-06-2008, 12:47 PM
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Re: The dangers of not having a Pastor in your Lif
I thank God for a pastor who can feed me. By this I mean; He is a good teacher, studies, and can discuss scriptures with me.
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11-06-2008, 12:49 PM
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Re: The dangers of not having a Pastor in your Lif
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I thank God for a pastor who can feed me. By this I mean; He is a good teacher, studies, and can discuss scriptures with me.
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Me too....
A Good Pastor is a great benefit in a world where it's getting harder and more difficult to find good folks....
except on here of course....
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11-06-2008, 01:40 PM
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Re: The dangers of not having a Pastor in your Lif
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Me too....
A Good Pastor is a great benefit in a world where it's getting harder and more difficult to find good folks....
except on here of course....
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I think you misunderstand how people feel on here  . Most people love, or would love and great servant of christ to labor for, and with, and to them. Wise, full of the fruits of the spirit, a loving guide to help them.
*disclaimer (you'll like this) - Your feelings could be drawn from a defensive attitude from most posters here. Many were taught, and or experienced an overlord type Pastor theology. - And they fear/reject that being pushed on them  .
A great pastor is like a jewel with wings, as a bad pastor is like lodestone around your neck =(
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11-06-2008, 01:58 PM
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Standing fast in liberty!
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Re: The dangers of not having a Pastor in your Lif
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I think you misunderstand how people feel on here . Most people love, or would love and great servant of christ to labor for, and with, and to them. Wise, full of the fruits of the spirit, a loving guide to help them.
*disclaimer (you'll like this) - Your feelings could be drawn from a defensive attitude from most posters here. Many were taught, and or experienced an overlord type Pastor theology. - And they fear/reject that being pushed on them .
A great pastor is like a jewel with wings, as a bad pastor is like lodestone around your neck =( |
BINGO!
I don't have an opposition to having a pastor. I actually have a great pastor whom I love and am confident that he loves me. But having recently been delivered from years of spiritual abuse by a "pastor" who was more a "lord over God's heritage" than a servant. He was all about being served and wielding his "authority". It was more about power to him. That's how I came to study this all out, and found that the whole model of "pastoral ministry" as we have inherited it from RCC down through the reformation is NOT the model we find in the first century church.
Spiritual abuse is a very real, emotionally devastating problem in many of our churches today. An outsider might not see it, but it is real. You might look at the congregation I left and see how wonderful everything looks and how organized everything is and how perfect everything seems. He (the pastor) is still pulling in 800 to 900 people every week, but get to know some of those people and hear how they really feel and you might be shocked. An insider knows differently and they're kept in submission by fear of being made an outcast (socially as well as spiritually) or being publicly humiliated.
RevRandy, Bro. Keith, I'm sure you are both outstanding pastors with true servant's hearts and a love for the people of God. Just understand that there are some serious problems out there, and MANY have been hurt by these "wolves in sheeps clothing" who are out for their own aspirations. We need more pastors who are "men of God", and we need to purge out the pastors who are "men of themselves."
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Instead of studying to make sure what we believe is supported by Scripture, we MUST study the Scripture to see what IT TEACHES... then BELIEVE THAT! 
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2.15 KJV
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11-06-2008, 01:57 PM
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Re: The dangers of not having a Pastor in your Lif
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Me too....
A Good Pastor is a great benefit in a world where it's getting harder and more difficult to find good folks....
except on here of course....
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11-06-2008, 02:06 PM
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Standing fast in liberty!
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Re: The dangers of not having a Pastor in your Lif
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Me too....
A Good Pastor is a great benefit in a world where it's getting harder and more difficult to find good folks....
except on here of course....
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AMEN! I appreciate you, Bro. Randy! I'm sure you're a wonderful pastor with a servant's heart and the mind of Christ. God bless you.
I apologize if some of my comments have sounded like I was "pastor-bashing" or disagreeing that we DO NEED pastors. I recognize and appreciate that the church needs the gifts of leadership that the Lord gave us - some apostles, some prophets, some pastors, evangelists and teachers.
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Instead of studying to make sure what we believe is supported by Scripture, we MUST study the Scripture to see what IT TEACHES... then BELIEVE THAT!
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2.15 KJV
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