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View Poll Results: r. card was used, post-racist soc., new racism
I think so. 3 23.08%
I don't think so. 4 30.77%
Obama’s campaign did NOT use the race card. Otherwise agree. 0 0%
We are not a post-racist society. Otherwise agree. 2 15.38%
Racism will not be re-kindled. Otherwise agree. 0 0%
Disagree, but coming administration will greatly fuel racism. 3 23.08%
President-Elect Obama will heal our racial divides. 1 7.69%
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:02 AM
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i think race helped him more in the primaries then in the election itself. Blacks make up like 14% of the nations population, so it took alot of white votes for him to win. Being black helped him get the democratic nomination for sure.
The greatest fear of many whites is to be accused of racism. This is a rational fear, because it can be a career-ender, even if the accusation is groundless. Since most people do not understand the difference between racism (a sin) and prejudice (a sometimes erroneous judgment call), many have what is called "white guilt." It is the irrational feeling that an individual middle class white person is somehow personally responsible for the lower standard of living of a minority.

Voting for a "black" man is the ultimate absolution for people with such feelings. It is a near-religious experience, and temporarily soothes their conscience. However, such people are easily manipulated by peer pressure and other devices, so it won't be long before they are convinced that voting was a good start, but as of yet they haven't given nearly enough.

I could be wrong. We shall see.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:06 AM
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Re: Are we now proven to be a post-racist society?

I think today that there isn't near the racism than is touted. There are those who make their living off of this commodity and it is their bread and butter to shine large lights on every possible example of racism they can find.

Is there racism today? Yes...

Are there racists today? Yes...

Is the average American a racist? No...

Racism is amplified at every possible opportunity to keep the fears alive. This causes people feel that the average American (white American especially) is a racist and this causes those who feel that way to harbor hatred for those who they feel are prejudiced against them.

The interesting result of that is that whites become pre-judged (isn't that prejudice) in the eyes of others as being racist.

The perception of widespread racism in American will only "go away" when those cashing their paycheck from the term stop the consistent drumming.

When the attack alarms are constantly being heard the mentality that one is under attack never goes away.

This election goes to show that the line that is being towed by these charlatans is not in keeping with the true state of the mind of the average American.

Hate is their bread and butter and hate does not live unattended. Hate must be maintained.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:26 PM
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I think today that there isn't near the racism than is touted. There are those who make their living off of this commodity and it is their bread and butter to shine large lights on every possible example of racism they can find.

Is there racism today? Yes...

Are there racists today? Yes...

Is the average American a racist? No...

Racism is amplified at every possible opportunity to keep the fears alive. This causes people feel that the average American (white American especially) is a racist and this causes those who feel that way to harbor hatred for those who they feel are prejudiced against them.

The interesting result of that is that whites become pre-judged (isn't that prejudice) in the eyes of others as being racist.

The perception of widespread racism in American will only "go away" when those cashing their paycheck from the term stop the consistent drumming.

When the attack alarms are constantly being heard the mentality that one is under attack never goes away.

This election goes to show that the line that is being towed by these charlatans is not in keeping with the true state of the mind of the average American.

Hate is their bread and butter and hate does not live unattended. Hate must be maintained.


WOW!
Great post.

You know, even my Dad feels different about America today.


"The younger white folks just aren't as racist as they used to be. It's amazing to me that we have a Black President."

Dad, born in 1947.
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Old 11-07-2008, 05:38 PM
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When I consider that 95% of blacks voted in favor of disincentivizing my initiative, work ethic, innovation, and willingness to take capital risk, I feel a small amount of vague, disembodied umbrage. I can't help but wonder what a non-Christian will make of it.
So President Obama is a "non-Christian"?

What is he then?

You know he has at least attended an Apostolic church service. That alone does not a Christian make, but if he isn't a Christian (in the broadest sense), then what is he?
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WOW!
Great post.

You know, even my Dad feels different about America today.


"The younger white folks just aren't as racist as they used to be. It's amazing to me that we have a Black President."

Dad, born in 1947.
Yes, things have absolutely come a long way. My father was born in 1942 and some of the things that he went through would probably make people's blood boil here on this forum (both white and black).
Some parts of the country lagged behind quite a bit. My wife was born in a very small town in Mississippi and in her lifetime she remembers seprate sitting areas at the doctors office. So most of it is in our rearview mirror...some further back than some would portray and some of it closer than some would portray.

I think though that every generation the country has made significant strides and that as some of the badder influences fade away, things get better.
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Voting for a "black" man is the ultimate absolution for people with such feelings. It is a near-religious experience, and temporarily soothes their conscience. However, such people are easily manipulated by peer pressure and other devices, so it won't be long before they are convinced that voting was a good start, but as of yet they haven't given nearly enough.

I could be wrong. We shall see.
OH MY GOD!!! PLEASE YOUR KIDDING???

People, that is the (WHITES FOLKS) only voted Obama in due to color or some guilt! He was voted in because he stood for the change they (WHITES FOLKS) wanted!!

So I guess the (BLACK FOLKS) who voted McCain did it out slave mentality, not because he stood for what they wanted!!!

As someone who's part black and French, married to a black man find this type of thinking beyond words!!!
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:22 PM
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OH MY GOD!!! PLEASE YOUR KIDDING???

People, that is the (WHITES FOLKS) only voted Obama in due to color or some guilt! He was voted in because he stood for the change they (WHITES FOLKS) wanted!!

So I guess the (BLACK FOLKS) who voted McCain did it out slave mentality, not because he stood for what they wanted!!!

As someone who's part black and French, married to a black man find this type of thinking beyond words!!!

yeah I don't buy that line of thinking either. Most of the folks who voted for President Obama did so without using his race as the deciding factor.

Had President Obama ran as a Republican, he would have lost.
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:59 AM
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yeah I don't buy that line of thinking either. Most of the folks who voted for President Obama did so without using his race as the deciding factor.

Had President Obama ran as a Republican, he would have lost.
1399 The poll show the younger generation rocked the vote! The polls also said the younger generation realized it was up to them to make sure they had a future. As one young man said, we younger people realized early in the game our parent generation wasn't about change, so we took the lead!

My kids drag me to the polls, they all voted Obama, I wrote in! I was overwhelmed by just how many young people were there from our small town, it was a good thing. This Election was the first time I ever saw all three of my kids get so involved, they watch the debates and ever other thing that had to do with this Election. It the end they decided, they all switch from Republicans to Democrat in support of Obama, I support their choice!


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Old 11-09-2008, 04:32 PM
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Re: Are we now proven to be a post-racist society?

I hate to say this because of what others might think, but I feel like most black people voted for Obama because he is black...for no other reason to say "Finally! We got a black person in the white house"...that some how this means something....but it reminds me of the mindset that we had here in LA when they acquitted Simpson. It seemed to me that a lot of people did not care if he was guilty or not...him getting freedom represented something to a lot of black people.

I'd love to have a black president...honestly I don't care what race or sex one is....I care more about what that president will represent domestically and abroad. When we care more about sound bites and skin color and not domestic and foreign policy for a leader we have truly lost our way as a nation IMO.
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I voted for Barack Obama.

I've previously voted Republican since 1976.

I resent the implication that I voted for Obama out of some pansy-liberal "white guilt."

But of course these right wingers will continue to live in their fantasy world and refuse to look at the REAL reasons Bush Republicanism was soundly trounced and repudiated.
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