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[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

I think pornography has had a huge impact on everything. It is such a secret sin now and at the click of a button. It truly terrifies me how available it is. I think it is a secret epidemic. Sometimes I wonder if pornography may have something to do with the subject at hand in every way. Meaning, why people are doing the things they do....why people are willing to discuss it....and whether intimacy is at the core of the discussion or if sexual addiction is at the core. I don't have th answers to all these questions but it is some food for thought.

ILG,
I think people have wanted to ask others opinions about OS and AS. The reasons, IMO, for that are: it is something you don't want to talk about in a local church setting, you know people have differing views and you want to know what they are and why they are differing. We have done this here. I've given my opinion and others have given their opinion.

It seems to come down to two opinions:

1. It is sin and considered sodomy.
2. It is and should be between consenting adults.

I don't see anyone joking around in an intimate or careless way. I think the questions are being asked in a straightforward manner and answers are being given in the same way. I haven't read anything that is tasteless.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

ILG,
I think people have wanted to ask others opinions about OS and AS. The reasons, IMO, for that are: it is something you don't want to talk about in a local church setting, you know people have differing views and you want to know what they are and why they are differing. We have done this here. I've given my opinion and others have given their opinion.

It seems to come down to two opinions:

1. It is sin and considered sodomy.
2. It is and should be between consenting adults.

I don't see anyone joking around in an intimate or careless way. I think the questions are being asked in a straightforward manner and answers are being given in the same way. I haven't read anything that is tasteless.

I am confused about your answer to my post. I didn't say anything about the above (until a post I just wrote a few moments ago). I did talk about pornography and sexual addiction. I think it is an important topic and definately related. I'm afraid some men in the church use their wives for a sexual "fix" and use the Bible to do it (saying the marriage bed is undefiled and relations should not be withheld). That isn't to say that I think "whatever" is a sin....but no one should ever be pressured.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

I am confused about your answer to my post. I didn't say anything about the above (until a post I just wrote a few moments ago). I did talk about pornography and sexual addiction. I think it is an important topic and definately related. I'm afraid some men in the church use their wives for a sexual "fix" and use the Bible to do it (saying the marriage bed is undefiled and relations should not be withheld). That isn't to say that I think "whatever" is a sin....but no one should ever be pressured.

ILG,
I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood what you were saying. When you said, ....why people are willing to discuss it....and whether intimacy is at the core of the discussion or if sexual addiction is at the core.", I thought you were implying that is why some may be discussing it here.

I felt the topic was something many haven't come to terms with as they are not finding a decent audience to express their thoughts for feedback. I feel this is as good a place as any, being that Sister Falla, the wiser, is also engaging in the conversation with tact, as are others.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

ILG,
I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood what you were saying. When you said, ....why people are willing to discuss it....and whether intimacy is at the core of the discussion or if sexual addiction is at the core.", I thought you were implying that is why some may be discussing it here.

I felt the topic was something many haven't come to terms with as they are not finding a decent audience to express their thoughts for feedback. I feel this is as good a place as any, being that Sister Falla, the wiser, is also engaging in the conversation with tact, as are others.

Oh, I do think that is why some are discussing it. But I certainly wasn't implying that that is why everyone is here. I just think it is more prevalent than people are sometimes willing to admit.

[ILG]

I should really be in bed though. Sleeping, I mean.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

Oh, I do think that is why some are discussing it. But I certainly wasn't implying that that is why everyone is here. I just think it is more prevalent than people are sometimes willing to admit.

ILG,
Oh, I see. I did read you right then. Well, I'll have to admit that I am a total airhead, at times, and it never occurred to me. LOL! Thanks for pointing that out. That let the air out of the tires. Everyone is now suspect! LOL!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

ILG,
Oh, I see. I did read you right then. Well, I'll have to admit that I am a total airhead, at times, and it never occurred to me. LOL! Thanks for pointing that out. That let the air out of the tires. Everyone is now suspect! LOL!

Certainly.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by ILG

Oh, I do think that is why some are discussing it. But I certainly wasn't implying that that is why everyone is here. I just think it is more prevalent than people are sometimes willing to admit.

I started this thread.

I have admitted on AFF to struggling with porn-- that's why I come here so as to stay away from the other stuff.


The questions I have prompted or come right out and asked, however, have nothing to do with porn.

It has everything to do with boundaries within a Christian marriage, Christians who decide to set boundaries for others and whether or not they have the scripture to back up the opinions they pass on as command.

Maybe the opinions are Biblical commands. Maybe the opinions are examples of good advice. Maybe the opinions are only opinions.


As a single guy who's been taught that it is a sin for OS to happen between a man and a wife, I wanted to see if any one else was as skeptical about that as I was.

I believe I am open minded enough to be shown scripture or even a Biblical concept that would properly address these questions.

For the most part, the language of this thread has been mature and so has the discussion.


Thanks to all that have kept this thread from drowning in toxic waste.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by 1399

I started this thread.

I have admitted on AFF to struggling with porn-- that's why I come here so as to stay away from the other stuff.


The questions I have prompted or come right out and asked, however, have nothing to do with porn.

It has everything to do with boundaries within a Christian marriage, Christians who decide to set boundaries for others and whether or not they have the scripture to back up the opinions they pass on as command.

Maybe the opinions are Biblical commands. Maybe the opinions are examples of good advice. Maybe the opinions are only opinions.


As a single guy who's been taught that it is a sin for OS to happen between a man and a wife, I wanted to see if any one else was as skeptical about that as I was.

I believe I am open minded enough to be shown scripture or even a Biblical concept that would properly address these questions.

For the most part, the language of this thread has been mature and so has the discussion.


Thanks to all that have kept this thread from drowning in toxic waste.

1399, from the topic of the thread--I'd say the pastor is wrong. (Mind you, I didn't watch the video.)

Wrong, in that, good sex is the result of a good relationship, not the cause of it.

Wrong because it isn't his business, and while his motives might be good, it just isn't his place to tell married couples how often. The Bible isn't specific--it just says not to withhold from one another.

Within a Christian marriage, all you have to do is use biblical principles--even in the bedroom. Serve one another in love, make meeting your spouse's needs your priority, and your own needs will get met in the process.

The moment selfishness sets in, and you start making demands of your spouse with the narrow goal of having your needs met, well...things will deteriorate quickly.

The boundaries in the bedroom should be simple. We're here to please one another, and anything that displeases either of us should be left outside the door. A Venn Diagram comes to mind.

I also think TV's should be left out of the bedroom, but that's another thread. Probably.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by 1399

I started this thread.

I have admitted on AFF to struggling with porn-- that's why I come here so as to stay away from the other stuff.


The questions I have prompted or come right out and asked, however, have nothing to do with porn.

It has everything to do with boundaries within a Christian marriage, Christians who decide to set boundaries for others and whether or not they have the scripture to back up the opinions they pass on as command.
.

Actually, I think they may have very much to do with it. Pornography breaks down normal boundaries until people don't know what is right or wrong anymore. This includes preachers who don't know correct boundaries. I think this culture has so much hidden porn that even people who are not looking at or addicted to porn are affected by it.