*EXPLOSIVE* TF Tenney Preached 4 Phillips Sunday

aak1972 · #1 11-13-2008, 09:42 AM

Not according to the words of Jesus. Now I do agree there is more to the kingdom than just the door. They key unlocks the door to the kingdom. My point is I dont understand the "onesteppers" as yall call them on here. This is as black and white as the ten commandments.

deltaguitar · #2 11-13-2008, 10:13 AM

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Not according to the words of Jesus. Now I do agree there is more to the kingdom than just the door. They key unlocks the door to the kingdom. My point is I dont understand the "onesteppers" as yall call them on here. This is as black and white as the ten commandments.

If it is so black and white then why do we have almost no history of an Acts 2:38 plan of salvation since the first century and why does only about .05% of Christianity agree with this viewpoint?

aak1972 · #3 11-13-2008, 10:42 AM

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If it is so black and white then why do we have almost no history of an Acts 2:38 plan of salvation since the first century and why does only about .05% of Christianity agree with this viewpoint?

Well let me rephrase that. It is that clear to me. I was raised UPC and it was crammed down my throat. But one day while studying the Bible using a chronoligical guide it hit me. Now I still have questions about the mandatory issue of tongues. Acts 2:38 says the Holy Ghost is a gift. I have seen way too many people go to a UPC alter and leave without speaking in tongues never to return. I have seen them pray fo hours and days. To me this makes no sense.

deltaguitar · #4 11-13-2008, 11:04 AM

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Well let me rephrase that. It is that clear to me. I was raised UPC and it was crammed down my throat. But one day while studying the Bible using a chronoligical guide it hit me. Now I still have questions about the mandatory issue of tongues. Acts 2:38 says the Holy Ghost is a gift. I have seen way too many people go to a UPC alter and leave without speaking in tongues never to return. I have seen them pray fo hours and days. To me this makes no sense.

Right, if something is a gift why in the world should we struggle and struggle to speak in tongues. This was also crammed down my throat for years and I suffered much because I never thought I was good enough for God's blessing. Trust me, this brought about a lot of anger because I would see these folks who didn't follow the rules and weren't good christians shouting and dancing and speaking in tongues and considered "spiritual" while I wasn't even saved because I couldn't speak in tongues.

Yep, a lot of twisted stuff went on in my church growing up.

berkeley · #5 11-13-2008, 11:12 AM

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Right, if something is a gift why in the world should we struggle and struggle to speak in tongues. This was also crammed down my throat for years and I suffered much because I never thought I was good enough for God's blessing. Trust me, this brought about a lot of anger because I would see these folks who didn't follow the rules and weren't good christians shouting and dancing and speaking in tongues and considered "spiritual" while I wasn't even saved because I couldn't speak in tongues.

Yep, a lot of twisted stuff went on in my church growing up.

Do you speak in tongues now?

I will paraphrase what Jesus said. "If your belief in me has a scriptural basis, out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of life."
For me, this did not come when I accepted the Lord as my personal savior.
This came with the tongues.

deltaguitar · #6 11-13-2008, 12:32 PM

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Do you speak in tongues now?

I will paraphrase what Jesus said. "If your belief in me has a scriptural basis, out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of life."
For me, this did not come when I accepted the Lord as my personal savior.
This came with the tongues.

I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Amos · #7 11-13-2008, 12:41 PM

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I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

This explains a lot.

berkeley · #8 11-13-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

I am saddened by this post.

ChicagoPastor · #9 11-13-2008, 02:59 PM

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I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

so tongues accompanies everyone's Spirit baptism but yours?????

hmmmm

ChicagoPastor · #10 11-13-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Right, if something is a gift why in the world should we struggle and struggle to speak in tongues. This was also crammed down my throat for years and I suffered much because I never thought I was good enough for God's blessing. Trust me, this brought about a lot of anger because I would see these folks who didn't follow the rules and weren't good christians shouting and dancing and speaking in tongues and considered "spiritual" while I wasn't even saved because I couldn't speak in tongues.

Yep, a lot of twisted stuff went on in my church growing up.

what or who caused your church to have trouble?