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Old 11-13-2008, 11:04 AM
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Well let me rephrase that. It is that clear to me. I was raised UPC and it was crammed down my throat. But one day while studying the Bible using a chronoligical guide it hit me. Now I still have questions about the mandatory issue of tongues. Acts 2:38 says the Holy Ghost is a gift. I have seen way too many people go to a UPC alter and leave without speaking in tongues never to return. I have seen them pray fo hours and days. To me this makes no sense.
Right, if something is a gift why in the world should we struggle and struggle to speak in tongues. This was also crammed down my throat for years and I suffered much because I never thought I was good enough for God's blessing. Trust me, this brought about a lot of anger because I would see these folks who didn't follow the rules and weren't good christians shouting and dancing and speaking in tongues and considered "spiritual" while I wasn't even saved because I couldn't speak in tongues.

Yep, a lot of twisted stuff went on in my church growing up.
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Right, if something is a gift why in the world should we struggle and struggle to speak in tongues. This was also crammed down my throat for years and I suffered much because I never thought I was good enough for God's blessing. Trust me, this brought about a lot of anger because I would see these folks who didn't follow the rules and weren't good christians shouting and dancing and speaking in tongues and considered "spiritual" while I wasn't even saved because I couldn't speak in tongues.

Yep, a lot of twisted stuff went on in my church growing up.
Do you speak in tongues now?


I will paraphrase what Jesus said. "If your belief in me has a scriptural basis, out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of life."
For me, this did not come when I accepted the Lord as my personal savior.
This came with the tongues.
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Do you speak in tongues now?


I will paraphrase what Jesus said. "If your belief in me has a scriptural basis, out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of life."
For me, this did not come when I accepted the Lord as my personal savior.
This came with the tongues.
I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
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I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
This explains a lot.
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This explains a lot.
It certainly does.
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This explains a lot.
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It certainly does.
Amos knows the church I attended for 27 years. I would consider it a very typical UPC church. You guys just don't get it, I grew up in a household where there was speaking in tongues going on all the time. My dad, mom, and sister were basically "super spiritual" folks but I have never been able to make it happen and I have seriously tried. It just makes me mad that I wasted so much energy on trying to speak in tongues.
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Amos knows the church I attended for 27 years. I would consider it a very typical UPC church. You guys just don't get it, I grew up in a household where there was speaking in tongues going on all the time. My dad, mom, and sister were basically "super spiritual" folks but I have never been able to make it happen and I have seriously tried. It just makes me mad that I wasted so much energy on trying to speak in tongues.
You don't "make it happen."
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Amos knows the church I attended for 27 years. I would consider it a very typical UPC church. You guys just don't get it, I grew up in a household where there was speaking in tongues going on all the time. My dad, mom, and sister were basically "super spiritual" folks but I have never been able to make it happen and I have seriously tried. It just makes me mad that I wasted so much energy on trying to speak in tongues.
And now we know what the problem is!

You're trying to "make it happen"

You can't make it happen because it's not your gift to give.

Let GOD fill you with the Holy Ghost....you WILL speak in tongues. (please notice I didn't say anything about your salvation....I don't want you to confuse doctrines again)


There is a difference between you and the group of members on AFF that don't believe tongues are "necessary" for salvation........
ALL of them HAVE spoken in tongues....

you haven't...............but you can.


Let God make it happen, bro.
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I don't know if I speak in tongues. I wouldn't go to a church where people didn't believe in the operation of the spiritual gifts. However, I can't honestly say that I have ever spoke in tongues where there was a definite language coming from me. At times I have felt my tongue become loose or possible speaking a few words in tongues but I don't speak in tongues. I have however felt the power of God and I would say that I have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
I am saddened by this post.
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I am saddened by this post.
Hey don't be sad. Just forget I said all of that.
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