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Old 11-16-2008, 07:30 PM
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I agree with you Blume. Antipas often tries to turn an issue into a soup of words. By doing this, he tries to cloud the issue and then postulates that because it is so subjective we must accept all of it.
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I agree with you Blume. Antipas often tries to turn an issue into a soup of words. By doing this, he tries to cloud the issue and then postulates that because it is so subjective we must accept all of it.
I'm sorry Brother Stokes....but sometimes issues are far too complex to fit onto a bumper sticker... though most of us in Pentecost depend on that sort of sound bite theology.

The issue at hand is that I see a group of brothers who desire to disfellowship another group of brothers over an issue that's ultimately in God's hands and can be interpreted several different ways. Some are looking for a reason to hate and separate...I'm admonishing that we look for a reason to love and bridge the gap with a Holy Ghost filled brother.

On a side note...

I wonder if our concept of a God who isn't concerned with reconciling all of mankind plays a part in our willingness to hate and separate from all who do not agree with us, though they have the same Holy Ghost that we do?

Maybe all deviant theologies represented here are of the devil...including Preterism (I jest.)

One man's heresy...is another man's sacrement.

The question is, unless it's an essential for salvation, can we maintain the bonds of love?
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:35 AM
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I'm sorry Brother Stokes....but sometimes issues are far too complex to fit onto a bumper sticker... though most of us in Pentecost depend on that sort of sound bite theology.

The issue at hand is that I see a group of brothers who desire to disfellowship another group of brothers over an issue that's ultimately in God's hands and can be interpreted several different ways. Some are looking for a reason to hate and separate...I'm admonishing that we look for a reason to love and bridge the gap with a Holy Ghost filled brother.

On a side note...

I wonder if our concept of a God who isn't concerned with reconciling all of mankind plays a part in our willingness to hate and separate from all who do not agree with us, though they have the same Holy Ghost that we do?

Maybe all deviant theologies represented here are of the devil...including Preterism (I jest.)

One man's heresy...is another man's sacrement.

The question is, unless it's an essential for salvation, can we maintain the bonds of love?
Ad hominem arguments are just another way to try to confuse the true meaning of the matter (this is for the bumper sticker comment).

I have never spoke of disfellowshiping anyone. I am a oneness believer who attends a trinitarian pentecostal church because all of the oneness churches in my area place an inordinate concern on the physical appearance. To make a long story short, this attitude actually pushed my wife away from God instead of drawing her closer. Thus, I am not one to wish to disfellowship people.

My only contention with all of this talk is that Jesus Christ speaks of eternal life and eternal death. If one places a limitation on the eternal death, then one must also place a limitation on eternal life. If one proceeds to set these limitations, then we open the Christian faith up to a plethora of false doctrines (e.g. reincarnation).
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