We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Nor do I.

I believe the pertinent point in that chapter is the instruction to "learn not the way of the heathen"

Also... the point that keeps being made that one does not worship the tree.

To me this misses the point.

It isn't, by the most far flung stretch of the imagination, a position that one worships the tree. That is ludicrous.

When the pagans brought the tree into their home long before Christ was born they didn't worship the tree either. The tree was brought into their homes as a part of their worship and remembrance of their pagan deities.

The issue, to me is that this practice, whose roots is clearly in pagan instruction and not in biblical standing, has been made a part of ones worship of the true and living God.

Of course no one is worshiping the tree... that would be ridiculous to even suggest such.

You seem to contradict yourself here???

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Esther

You seem to contradict yourself here???

Help me understand what you mean.

The issue, to me is that this practice, whose roots is clearly in pagan instruction and not in biblical standing, has been made a part of ones worship of the true and living God.

I am stating here that the issue is that these practices... which have no basis in scripture and have much standing in pagan tradition and ritual... are being used in peoples worship of our God... the one God... the one true and living God.

When practices initially designed to worship another God are used to worship the true God... that is what I have issue with.

Do you still see a contradiction?

If so please point it out and I will address it to the best of my ability.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Help me understand what you mean.



I am stating here that the issue is that these practices... which have no basis in scripture and have much standing in pagan tradition and ritual... are being used in peoples worship of our God... the one God... the one true and living God.

When practices initially designed to worship another God are used to worship the true God... that is what I have issue with.

Do you still see a contradiction?

If so please point it out and I will address it to the best of my ability.

I would agree!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Help me understand what you mean.



I am stating here that the issue is that these practices... which have no basis in scripture and have much standing in pagan tradition and ritual... are being used in peoples worship of our God... the one God... the one true and living God.

When practices initially designed to worship another God are used to worship the true God... that is what I have issue with.

Do you still see a contradiction?

If so please point it out and I will address it to the best of my ability.

Ok here is the post I am talking about.

The issue, to me is that this practice, whose roots is clearly in pagan instruction and not in biblical standing, has been made a part of ones worship of the true and living God.

Here you are saying "has been made a part of ones worship of the true and living God".

Of course no one is worshiping the tree... that would be ridiculous to even suggest such.

Then here you admit no one is worshipping the tree.

So the first paragraph you say it has been made a part of our worship, then the next you admit we are not worshipping the tree.

The issue is the tree is it not?

No one I know is putting up a tree in any form of worship.

Have I made it a little clearer?

I will say D4T I appreciate your walk and respect your beliefs, that is not my issue. I just don't get where folks think others that don't agree with them are worshipping a tree???

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Esther

Ok here is the post I am talking about.

The issue, to me is that this practice, whose roots is clearly in pagan instruction and not in biblical standing, has been made a part of ones worship of the true and living God.

Here you are saying "has been made a part of ones worship of the true and living God".

Of course no one is worshiping the tree... that would be ridiculous to even suggest such.

Then here you admit no one is worshipping the tree.

So the first paragraph you say it has been made a part of our worship, then the next you admit we are not worshipping the tree.

The issue is the tree is it not?

No one I know is putting up a tree in any form of worship.

Have I made it a little clearer?

I will say D4T I appreciate your walk and respect your beliefs, that is not my issue. I just don't get where folks think others that don't agree with them are worshipping a tree???

Singing is part of our worship yet we do not worship songs.
Prayer is part of our worship and yet we do not worship prayer.
Fasting is part of our worship and yet we do not worship fasting.
The remembrance of Christ's sacrifice on the cross is part of our worship and yet, in all of the instances, our worship is to our Christ and not to the methods by which we offer our worship.

It may be that you do not feel that a remembrance such as Christmas, easter etc is a part of your worship to God.

i do... When I remember his sacrifice through the sacrament I view that as worship.

If you do not then we have found the crux of our misunderstanding.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Singing is part of our worship yet we do not worship songs.
Prayer is part of our worship and yet we do not worship prayer.
Fasting is part of our worship and yet we do not worship fasting.
The remembrance of Christ's sacrifice on the cross is part of our worship and yet, in all of the instances, our worship is to our Christ and not to the methods by which we offer our worship.

It may be that you do not feel that a remembrance such as Christmas, easter etc is a part of your worship to God.

i do... When I remember his sacrifice through the sacrament I view that as worship.

If you do not then we have found the crux of our misunderstanding.

Of course, I celebrate Christ birth at Christmas time, knowing we don't have the exact date. Celebrating with the trimmings does not IMO equal pagan worship.

Easter is a time we celebrate Jesus death and resurrection, it has nothing to do with the hiding of eggs.

I think why you do things is more important that what you do. We can do or not do anything with the wrong motive.

But if God convicts me of it, then I would not do it, but He has not and I have celebrated this way for many, many years. And my husband would love it since he doesn't like to celebrate Christmas because of the gifts.