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11-22-2008, 06:13 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
What you mean a Reformed person would go agains't THE VAN TILL position ?
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11-22-2008, 06:18 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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I'm running out to be "social"... so only have a moment... but would it be better to pretend to believe and maybe belief would eventually come (or return)? I just have a hard time trying to be something that I'm not...
by "choosing" to believe, then I am pretending to believe... does that make sense?
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Yes it does, I do really understand. I have been there myself.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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11-22-2008, 06:23 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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I'm running out to be "social"... so only have a moment... but would it be better to pretend to believe and maybe belief would eventually come (or return)? I just have a hard time trying to be something that I'm not...
by "choosing" to believe, then I am pretending to believe... does that make sense?
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Do you want to believe there is a God who created all things?
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11-22-2008, 06:24 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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Do you want to believe there is a God who created all things?
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Maybe he just wants the truth, no matter what it is....
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11-22-2008, 06:27 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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Maybe he just wants the truth, no matter what it is....
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Then he has/had the truth and is being led into gross error. IMHO
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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11-22-2008, 06:28 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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I'm running out to be "social"... so only have a moment... but would it be better to pretend to believe and maybe belief would eventually come (or return)? I just have a hard time trying to be something that I'm not...
by "choosing" to believe, then I am pretending to believe... does that make sense?
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Pretending to believe will likely only frustrate you.
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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11-22-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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Then he has/had the truth and is being led into gross error. IMHO
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Nothing wrong with searching. Sometimes it opens your eyes to things you otherwise wouldn't know. Do you think this is just some sort of test and he should shut his mind off?
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11-22-2008, 06:32 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
Sometimes being disillusioned leads you to really seek God for yourself.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
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11-22-2008, 06:34 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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Maybe he just wants the truth, no matter what it is....
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This is what a person needs in order to find it. The desire for truth, no matter what it is or what it looks like.
But, I believe that there is one truth. What I've believed that one truth to be has changed over time.
Questioner...I'd really love to privately communicate with you. I've been where you are, and it's not a bad place to be. The truth can handle being questioned.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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11-22-2008, 06:39 PM
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Re: Do you choose what you believe in?
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I think that's a mis-charaterization. Most believe in healing just not in the apostolic miraculous gift of healing.
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Mu unlce pastored a southern baptist convention church in Minden, LA for 40 plus years.
A church that had 3500 members.
He was a Dr of Divinity and at the highest level in the organization.
They did not believe in miracles or healing period.
They believed those events and signs were for the days of Christ...
He would not pray for the sick...
He pastored in the same city as T.W. Barnes and they were good friends...
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