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Old 11-26-2008, 05:28 PM
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Re: Kings of Leon

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Considering the organization Papa Leon was a part of, there isn't much of a chance for a real encounter with Jesus.
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It is unfair to suggest these guys never had a real encounter with Jesus. Many people do have a genuine experience with Christ, but the experience gets lost in religion burdens established by denominational thinking.
But isn't that what you are suggesting? That there wasn't much of a chance for a real encounter with Jesus? Incredible!
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:07 PM
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But isn't that what you are suggesting? That there wasn't much of a chance for a real encounter with Jesus? Incredible!
Yup.
He basically contradicted himself in those 2 back-to-back posts.

I thought that was kind of strange.
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Anyway, despite its flaws, I believe the Lord has used the UPCI organization to bring millions of people into a real relationship with him, myself included. I'm very appreciative of that.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:09 AM
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I didn't think the posts was that unclear or contradictory. I didn't shut the door completely. The assumption was made these boys did not have a "Real Encounter" with God. I mentioned it is difficult, not impossible for people to have a "Real Encounter" with Christ in that organiziation. The other posts said if the band had an encounter with Jesus, it was smothered by religion.

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Old 11-27-2008, 04:12 AM
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well it does seem contradictory.
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I can understand on initial review of posts how it could seem contradictiory. It appears the little window of opportunity I gave in my original post wasn't caught.

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