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Old 11-26-2008, 06:57 PM
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I have often wondered the same thing.
I was thinking if we had to lose a letter, maybe 1 Corinthians would have been the better one to lose ;-)
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:06 PM
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I was thinking if we had to lose a letter, maybe 1 Corinthians would have been the better one to lose ;-)
I imagine there are several that some folks would like to lose.

In perspective, I am not sure any of us would have wanted to read the contents of the epistle to the Laodiceans.
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I imagine there are several that some folks would like to lose.

In perspective, I am not sure any of us would have wanted to read the contents of the epistle to the Laodiceans.
There could have been one more rule in the book of Laodiceans RRFord.

Possibly Lao. 2:3 would read, " men that call youselves holy shant wear sandles that have been blackened by the shoesmith"

With this being lost to the church, it's possible, that all us men who wear black shoes are in danger of the judgment.
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I was addressing his point about those who are zealous to go beyond the scriptural requirements in the area of Standards, and his statement that there is nothing wrong with that in itself.
I wont puport to speak for him, but I'll add my 2 cents from what I'm seeing here. I dont think rrford is saying what you think he's saying.

I think what he's is saying is that some people will have personal convictions that sometimes exceed what the bible requirements...and THAT is fine--- for them. But what's not ok is when they want to impose those convictions on everyone else and imply that those who dont share those same convictions are going to hell.

That sounds like what he was actually saying. That also happens to be something I very much agree with.
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I wont puport to speak for him, but I'll add my 2 cents from what I'm seeing here. I dont think rrford is saying what you think he's saying.

I think what he's is saying is that some people will have personal convictions that sometimes exceed what the bible requirements...and THAT is fine--- for them. But what's not ok is when they want to impose those convictions on everyone else and imply that those who dont share those same convictions are going to hell.

That sounds like what he was actually saying. That also happens to be something I very much agree with.
See above post.
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See above post.
......and I think you all 3 are right.
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I wont puport to speak for him, but I'll add my 2 cents from what I'm seeing here. I dont think rrford is saying what you think he's saying.

I think what he's is saying is that some people will have personal convictions that sometimes exceed what the bible requirements...and THAT is fine--- for them. But what's not ok is when they want to impose those convictions on everyone else and imply that those who dont share those same convictions are going to hell.

That sounds like what he was actually saying. That also happens to be something I very much agree with.
Exactly. Thanks for clarifying it for me.
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..............some people will have personal convictions that sometimes exceed what the bible requirements...and THAT is fine--- for them. But what's not ok is when they want to impose those convictions on everyone else and imply that those who dont share those same convictions are going to hell.

That sounds like what he was actually saying. That also happens to be something I very much agree with.

So, if someone sincerely believes that God does indeed desire his people to have standards, and that by not doing so one runs the risk of displeasing God, living to close to the world and "playing next to the cliff" if you will.

Then you believe that is fine right? (I happen to agree if so)

However, if that person is a pastor, and is responsible for the souls of the people he pastors. Then wouldn't it be wrong, and neglect for him NOT to preach what he believes is the will of God for his people, what pleases God, and the dangers and traps that could cause someone to fall?

I agree that one should not go around telling other churches and people that they are going to hell for wearing makeup. (even though I strongly support the no makeup standard)
But if one truly believes that something is the desire of God and a danger to do otherwise, then I believe it would be gravely wrong for them NOT to share/teach that belief.
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