WPF Musician to Play for Trinitarian

2020Vision · #1 12-05-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Wow,wow,wow-

That is quite an indictment indeed-

Please tell us who we have defamed? and what churches we have defamed?

That is quite a statement for you just to throw out there with nothing to back it up-

Perhaps you are not as new as posts reveal you to be-

I didn't think anyone had to back-up anything up on AFF. Isn't the the MO?

Let me see - defamation of every leader involved in WPF, leaders in UPCI, I've read posts of dozens of men of God be slandered here by people who, even by their own admission, have no clue. (Even this post for example!)

Elizabeth · #2 12-05-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision

I didn't think anyone had to back-up anything up on AFF. Isn't the the MO?

Let me see - defamation of every leader involved in WPF, leaders in UPCI, I've read posts of dozens of men of God be slandered here by people who, even by their own admission, have no clue. (Even this post for example!)

Oh so anyone can come on here and spout whatever they want without it being questioned? Perhaps you are new-because it doesn't work that way.

You still haven't backed up your claim, it's just a board brush you wish to paint AFF with.

We do take slandering preachers seriously, but members have to do their part and report the post-

Let's get something clear-

Our members can express their thoughts and feeling as freely as our guidelines allow---just because they do so does not mean they have the endorsement and affirmation of AFF.

This is a discussion board, if anyone brings anything to the board other board members are encouraged to either affirm what is being said or discount it--

Does not mean we promote anyone members views or thoughts-they are open for discussion.

aak1972 · #3 12-05-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Oh so anyone can come on here and spout whatever they want without it being questioned? Perhaps you are new-because it doesn't work that way.

You still haven't backed up your claim, it's just a board brush you wish to paint AFF with.

We do take slandering preachers seriously, but members have to do their part and report the post-

Let's get something clear-

Our members can express their thoughts and feeling as freely as our guidelines allow---just because they do so does not mean they have the endorsement and affirmation of AFF.

This is a discussion board, if anyone brings anything to the board other board members are encouraged to either affirm what is being said or discount it--

Does not mean we promote anyone members views or thoughts-they are open for discussion.

If you openly disagree or ask questions about a preacher is it slandering of defamation?? I THINK ( and yes I know they dont pay me to) this is why some people give up on church, they ask questions and get blasted for slandering or speaking vile of the ministry. Some of us just wanna know WHY??

Elizabeth · #4 12-05-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aak1972

If you openly disagree or ask questions about a preacher is it slandering of defamation?? I THINK ( and yes I know they dont pay me to) this is why some people give up on church, they ask questions and get blasted for slandering or speaking vile of the ministry. Some of us just wanna know WHY??

That is way I look at too-

I think it's prefectly fine to question and ask why-that is not defaming.

I think there in lies where the contention is and why we get such a bad rap, because we talk about things that are that some in ministry would consider off limits. Is not the same as defaming someone character.

rgcraig · #5 12-05-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

That is way I look at too-

I think it's prefectly fine to question and ask why-that is not defaming.

I think there in lies where the contention is and why we get such a bad rap, because we talk about things that are that some in ministry would consider off limits. Is not the same as defaming someone character.

That is a lot of the problem.

Many do not think there should be ANY questioning of the ministry.

2020Vision · #6 12-05-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

That is way I look at too-

I think it's prefectly fine to question and ask why-that is not defaming.

I think there in lies where the contention is and why we get such a bad rap, because we talk about things that are that some in ministry would consider off limits. Is not the same as defaming someone character.

Well allow me to use another analogy as you've compared this one to drunkenness. The homosexual movement has advanced their cause by "just asking why" so often that the resolve of Americans has run this and most can care less. What we talk about and the reasons we talk about them are extremely important. see Phil 4:8 for more.

No one has said asking questions equals defamation. Defamation, by definition, is when someone makes a false claim,expressly stated or implied, to be factual, that may give an individual, business, group, organization, etc... a negative image. Slander is spoken, so wouldn't apply on AFF.

Ask any question you want. Just keep it questions until all facts are known. In this case, facts weren't known. I was PMd by an involved party with the facts earlier this morning. Posters are just quick to run their mouths WITHOUT first asking enough questions. Yes, people leave church often because of GOSSIP.

Elizabeth · #7 12-05-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision

Well allow me to use another analogy as you've compared this one to drunkenness. The homosexual movement has advanced their cause by "just asking why" so often that the resolve of Americans has run this and most can care less. What we talk about and the reasons we talk about them are extremely important. see Phil 4:8 for more.

No one has said asking questions equals defamation. Defamation, by definition, is when someone makes a false claim,expressly stated or implied, to be factual, that may give an individual, business, group, organization, etc... a negative image. Slander is spoken, so wouldn't apply on AFF.

Ask any question you want. Just keep it questions until all facts are known. In this case, facts weren't known. I was PMd by an involved party with the facts earlier this morning. Posters are just quick to run their mouths WITHOUT first asking enough questions. Yes, people leave church often because of GOSSIP.

Who are you talking about??

We can not do anything unless someone reports the posts-

But as Mike said, if you feel so despairingly about AFF why come here?

2020Vision · #8 12-05-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Who are you talking about??

We can not do anything unless someone reports the posts-

But as Mike said, if you feel so despairingly about AFF why come here?

I'm always here. I decided to speak up today (and yesterday). And look at the mob gather 'round.

2020Vision · #9 12-05-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aak1972

If you openly disagree or ask questions about a preacher is it slandering of defamation?? I THINK ( and yes I know they dont pay me to) this is why some people give up on church, they ask questions and get blasted for slandering or speaking vile of the ministry. Some of us just wanna know WHY??

I would defensive too if AFF was my permanent playground was being held accountable. Certain members, and participants of this board are long known to defame orginazations, churches and preachers. This is no mystery.

Asking questions is one thing. It's a healthy thing. Even disagreeing is one thing. But being crude, disrepectful, calling said individuals "hypocrites", challenging their integrity as men of God and promoting postings that are distorting their own personal beliefs (eg. NW and Mary Magdalene hogwash from yesterday). This post I will use as an example. Much of the conclusions were drawn before all the facts coming out. Weren't they??

Whether or not the Admin is involved, it happens, and happens often. I am not new. My eyes have been around a long time. Its other posters like me that SHOULD speak up and you should be thankful for it.

rgcraig · #10 12-05-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision

I would defensive too if AFF was my permanent playground was being held accountable. Certain members, and participants of this board are long known to defame orginazations, churches and preachers. This is no mystery.

Asking questions is one thing. It's a healthy thing. Even disagreeing is one thing. But being crude, disrepectful, calling said individuals "hypocrites", challenging their integrity as men of God and promoting postings that are distorting their own personal beliefs (eg. NW and Mary Magdalene hogwash from yesterday). This post I will use as an example. Much of the conclusions were drawn before all the facts coming out. Weren't they??

Whether or not the Admin is involved, it happens, and happens often. I am not new. My eyes have been around a long time. Its other posters like me that SHOULD speak up and you should be thankful for it.

Not sure how to take this.