if it makes you feel better to say that, lay on.... im not offended by the statement.
and it does nothing to the reality that this thread isnt about smoking or gluttany.
its about proving hypocracy in those who are doing their best to live holy lives.
That is exactly how it reads to me.
I'm glad I am not the only one who sees it.
There is a deeply ingrained hostility toward holiness, strong new birth people here.
It didn't used to be that way, but it is now.
Vitriolic and venomous is how I would describe it.
But it's ok. I understand exactly why.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
There is a deeply ingrained hostility toward holiness, strong new birth people here.
It didn't used to be that way, but it is now.
Vitriolic and venomous is how I would describe it.
But it's ok. I understand exactly why.
I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con. Atleast I didnt start a thread objections to the Bible!
I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con.
but isnt the answer really simple?
sin is sin. smoking is a sin and gluttany is a sin. justifying one and preaching against the other is wrong.
Isnt it just that simple? havent we already said that?
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
sin is sin. smoking is a sin and gluttany is a sin. justifying one and preaching against the other is wrong.
Isnt it just that simple? havent we already said that?
My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
I would like to know why tobacco is a sin? Is it b/c its unhealthy? If thats the case a lot of things could be added to the list. Sugar, sodium, and phenylalanine. The last one is found in diet drinks and is known to cause multiple health issues. Is it b/c of the addiction? I have read that nicotine has the same addictive qualities as herion. If thats the case we should still adhere to the preachers I heard years ago preaching against caffiene.
This is the original post.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
well I think that is a huge question and appears quite different than how you framed the orriginal question....
but if you want to talk about that I honestly think there is a huge difference between caffiene and nicotine.
you cannot smoke in moderation and not be harmed. you can drink coffee in moderation and not only not be harmed but actually get some benifits.
I dont know what Phenylalanine is.
As for gluttany, I really dont think most folk really know what that means. if one think it means eating too much from time to time, I would suggest that isnt a very good definition.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con.
Both of these statements contrasts your most recent posts. Which is true?
Both of these statements contrasts your most recent posts. Which is true?
I don't really think we can put much stock in what he says.
He contradicts himself, and plays little word games.
Not interested, myself.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
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