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Old 12-16-2008, 02:44 PM
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I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con.
but isnt the answer really simple?

sin is sin. smoking is a sin and gluttany is a sin. justifying one and preaching against the other is wrong.

Isnt it just that simple? havent we already said that?
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but isnt the answer really simple?

sin is sin. smoking is a sin and gluttany is a sin. justifying one and preaching against the other is wrong.

Isnt it just that simple? havent we already said that?
My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:51 PM
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My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
I would like to know why tobacco is a sin? Is it b/c its unhealthy? If thats the case a lot of things could be added to the list. Sugar, sodium, and phenylalanine. The last one is found in diet drinks and is known to cause multiple health issues. Is it b/c of the addiction? I have read that nicotine has the same addictive qualities as herion. If thats the case we should still adhere to the preachers I heard years ago preaching against caffiene.

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Old 12-16-2008, 02:53 PM
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My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
well I think that is a huge question and appears quite different than how you framed the orriginal question....

but if you want to talk about that I honestly think there is a huge difference between caffiene and nicotine.

you cannot smoke in moderation and not be harmed. you can drink coffee in moderation and not only not be harmed but actually get some benifits.

I dont know what Phenylalanine is.

As for gluttany, I really dont think most folk really know what that means. if one think it means eating too much from time to time, I would suggest that isnt a very good definition.
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well I think that is a huge question and appears quite different than how you framed the orriginal question....

but if you want to talk about that I honestly think there is a huge difference between caffiene and nicotine.

you cannot smoke in moderation and not be harmed. you can drink coffee in moderation and not only not be harmed but actually get some benifits.

I dont know what Phenylalanine is.

As for gluttany, I really dont think most folk really know what that means. if one think it means eating too much from time to time, I would suggest that isnt a very good definition.
I am sorry if my original question did not come across like this one. But this is really what I wanted an answer to. phenylalanine is the chemical in diet drinks to give them a sweeter taste and has proven to have extremely harmful health hazards.
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I am sorry if my original question did not come across like this one. But this is really what I wanted an answer to. phenylalanine is the chemical in diet drinks to give them a sweeter taste and has proven to have extremely harmful health hazards.
well brother, concerning diet drinks, I have always taken a HARD stand against them!

LOL.

the question is, are they harmful in moderation? ie 1 drink or less a day?

I am coming around to viewing High Fructose Corn Syrup as very damaging to the human body almost as damaging as cigerettes.
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well brother, concerning diet drinks, I have always taken a HARD stand against them!

LOL.

the question is, are they harmful in moderation? ie 1 drink or less a day?

I am coming around to viewing High Fructose Corn Syrup as very damaging to the human body almost as damaging as cigerettes.
Yep!

So is the difference to you the habitual side of smoking that makes it worse to you?

Actually, I'm a carboholic - - which is damaging too, so we are back to the orginal question - - is it a sin too?
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Yep!

So is the difference to you the habitual side of smoking that makes it worse to you?

Actually, I'm a carboholic - - which is damaging too, so we are back to the orginal question - - is it a sin too?
Renda, there is nothing redeming about smoking. nothing. everything about nicotine in all its forms is first harmful to the human body from ones first encounter. Putting a loaded gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger isnt addictive but it is harmful. I dont suggest it.

the addictive nature of smoking is just one more reason to add to the already deadly reasons not to smoke, and to consider the use of nicotine sinful.
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well I think that is a huge question and appears quite different than how you framed the orriginal question....

but if you want to talk about that I honestly think there is a huge difference between caffiene and nicotine.

you cannot smoke in moderation and not be harmed. you can drink coffee in moderation and not only not be harmed but actually get some benifits.

I dont know what Phenylalanine is.

As for gluttany, I really dont think most folk really know what that means. if one think it means eating too much from time to time, I would suggest that isnt a very good definition.
Ok i am with you on the moderation thing. And you are very correct about the high fructose cor syrup!
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Ok i am with you on the moderation thing. And you are very correct about the high fructose cor syrup!
great! then you now have your answer!
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