aak1972....I am not offended by your cause for this thread....I have had some interesting discussion. But I definitely will think twice before reading or answering you or another of your threads.
fool me once....shame on you....fool me twice....
I hate that you feel that way. And I can understand why. However I did have my own selfish agenda in starting this thread.
I think what is being said here is the messeges being preached on smoking and drinking and not being preached on the other unhealthy things in the world I have heard plenty testify how jesus saved them from drinking and smoking but never heard anyone testify about being delivered from KFC,POYPES OR CHURCHES CHICKEN I myself personally think this should not be preached since it is not biblical about smoking and drinking but you should use common since.
Did you vote for Obama? lol
There are a lot of common sense reasons to not smoke; I have only read the first 20 pages and need to go for awhile, but no one up to that point has mentioned the unbelievable high cost of cigerattes. That alone would motivate me not to smoke.
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What is really surprising me is this has been discussed numerous times on AFF - not sure why some are so up in arms today.
I think it's more about people than the subject.
Why we are so up in arms?
Oh, maybe because being mocked and baited gets old.
You answer questions as if they were sincere, only to be sneered at and told the poster doing the asking just wanted to see if he could manipulate you.
That might do it.
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I would like to know why tobacco is a sin? Is it b/c its unhealthy? If thats the case a lot of things could be added to the list. Sugar, sodium, and phenylalanine. The last one is found in diet drinks and is known to cause multiple health issues. Is it b/c of the addiction? I have read that nicotine has the same addictive qualities as herion. If thats the case we should still adhere to the preachers I heard years ago preaching against caffiene.
I dont personally think smoking is anymore sinful than gluttony and or any other addictive, harmful activity.
There is a deeply ingrained hostility toward holiness, strong new birth people here.
It didn't used to be that way, but it is now.
Vitriolic and venomous is how I would describe it.
But it's ok. I understand exactly why.
I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con. Atleast I didnt start a thread objections to the Bible!
I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con.
but isnt the answer really simple?
sin is sin. smoking is a sin and gluttany is a sin. justifying one and preaching against the other is wrong.
Isnt it just that simple? havent we already said that?
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I did not ask this question to bash holiness. It really was an honest question that I still have no clear answer on. I am currently happy being what most on here would consider an ultra-con.
Both of these statements contrasts your most recent posts. Which is true?
Both of these statements contrasts your most recent posts. Which is true?
I don't really think we can put much stock in what he says.
He contradicts himself, and plays little word games.
Not interested, myself.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
sin is sin. smoking is a sin and gluttany is a sin. justifying one and preaching against the other is wrong.
Isnt it just that simple? havent we already said that?
My question was not about gluttony. It was why are other things that have proven to be addictive (caffiene) and harmful (phenylalanine) not preached against. I am not trying to justify anything. Just a question.
Oh, maybe because being mocked and baited gets old.
You answer questions as if they were sincere, only to be sneered at and told the poster doing the asking just wanted to see if he could manipulate you.
That might do it.
I do understand that being mocked and baited does get old.
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