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Old 12-16-2008, 02:54 PM
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2Ti 2:24 And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil,
2Ti 2:25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth,
2Ti 2:26 and they may escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will.
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:57 PM
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well I think that is a huge question and appears quite different than how you framed the orriginal question....

but if you want to talk about that I honestly think there is a huge difference between caffiene and nicotine.

you cannot smoke in moderation and not be harmed. you can drink coffee in moderation and not only not be harmed but actually get some benifits.

I dont know what Phenylalanine is.

As for gluttany, I really dont think most folk really know what that means. if one think it means eating too much from time to time, I would suggest that isnt a very good definition.
I am sorry if my original question did not come across like this one. But this is really what I wanted an answer to. phenylalanine is the chemical in diet drinks to give them a sweeter taste and has proven to have extremely harmful health hazards.
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When did i become a pastor??????!!!!!!!! Wow !!!!!!
I said "poster."
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I said "poster."
Yea see that lol!!
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Pastor poster?
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I am sorry if my original question did not come across like this one. But this is really what I wanted an answer to. phenylalanine is the chemical in diet drinks to give them a sweeter taste and has proven to have extremely harmful health hazards.
well brother, concerning diet drinks, I have always taken a HARD stand against them!

LOL.

the question is, are they harmful in moderation? ie 1 drink or less a day?

I am coming around to viewing High Fructose Corn Syrup as very damaging to the human body almost as damaging as cigerettes.
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well I think that is a huge question and appears quite different than how you framed the orriginal question....

but if you want to talk about that I honestly think there is a huge difference between caffiene and nicotine.

you cannot smoke in moderation and not be harmed. you can drink coffee in moderation and not only not be harmed but actually get some benifits.

I dont know what Phenylalanine is.

As for gluttany, I really dont think most folk really know what that means. if one think it means eating too much from time to time, I would suggest that isnt a very good definition.
Ok i am with you on the moderation thing. And you are very correct about the high fructose cor syrup!
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I had a nearly 12 cokes a day habit! I know first hand the health and addictive nature of soft drinks!
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Has anyone ever thought of looking at some of these issues more dynamically? Rather than labeling everything a sin and then pressuring people to conform, maybe just maybe if we stressed a closer walk with Jesus on a spiritual level people's hearts and minds would be changed to the point that they would stop leaning on stuff like food and tobacco for support and lean on Jesus?
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Ok i am with you on the moderation thing. And you are very correct about the high fructose cor syrup!
great! then you now have your answer!
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