Discipling and retention

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

The absence of posts to this thread is one of the reasons that we lose as many members as we gain in many Apostolic assemblies.

Discipling...what is that?

Blessings, Rhoni

Uh, this statement is quite a stretch.

Maybe its because there are not many people on line?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Uh, this statement is quite a stretch.

Maybe its because there are not many people on line?

Bro. Phelps,

This is probably true but the gossip and judgemental threads were up and going so I thought maybe it would draw those here who really have a the spirit of grace, soul winning, and discipleship at heart. Like you
Respectfully,
Rhoni

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Bro. Phelps,

This is probably true but the gossip and judgemental threads were up and going so I thought maybe it would draw those here who really have a the spirit of grace, soul winning, and discipleship at heart. Like you
Respectfully,
Rhoni

I appreciate that, I strongly agree with your premise.

I was on early this morning, and didn't see any "gossip" threads going strong, however. It was pretty quiet all around.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I appreciate that, I strongly agree with your premise.

I was on early this morning, and didn't see any "gossip" threads going strong, however. It was pretty quiet all around.

LOL. The thread was started yesterday.


Have a blessed day,
Rhoni

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

LOL. The thread was started yesterday.


Have a blessed day,
Rhoni

I understand. I was just referencing the comment you made at 6:50 am today.

But, no biggie, you may be on to something here!

In all seriousness, many of the churches I've been involved in, and I'm sad to say even the churches I've pastored, have been very light on discipleship.

It's almost as tho we expect people to come in, get saved, and absorb all of our standards and our commitment thru osmosis!

Some do, but many don't.

Even in my current secular job, I fall in to the trap of "I'm too busy to teach someone, they'll just have to learn on their own". And, it seldom works!

Investing your time into good people is never time wasted, even though it takes you away from tasks that you perceive to be urgent.

And, in the long run, the more people you spend time training, the more people there are to help share the load and allow the leader to free up his time for more outreach and discipleship!

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I understand. I was just referencing the comment you made at 6:50 am today.

But, no biggie, you may be on to something here!

In all seriousness, many of the churches I've been involved in, and I'm sad to say even the churches I've pastored, have been very light on discipleship.

It's almost as tho we expect people to come in, get saved, and absorb all of our standards and our commitment thru osmosis!

Some do, but many don't.

Even in my current secular job, I fall in to the trap of "I'm too busy to teach someone, they'll just have to learn on their own". And, it seldom works!

Investing your time into good people is never time wasted, even though it takes you away from tasks that you perceive to be urgent.

And, in the long run, the more people you spend time training, the more people there are to help share the load and allow the leader to free up his time for more outreach and discipleship!

Aweome post. What makes sense and is tried and true in the secular world also applies to the principle of discipling. Retention on the job is all about properly training and mentoring. Retention in our churches should go above and beyond to exampling, modeling, praying, studying, teaching, and training. But the greatest of these will always be love

Blessings, Rhoni

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I understand. I was just referencing the comment you made at 6:50 am today.

But, no biggie, you may be on to something here!

In all seriousness, many of the churches I've been involved in, and I'm sad to say even the churches I've pastored, have been very light on discipleship.

It's almost as tho we expect people to come in, get saved, and absorb all of our standards and our commitment thru osmosis!

Some do, but many don't.

Even in my current secular job, I fall in to the trap of "I'm too busy to teach someone, they'll just have to learn on their own". And, it seldom works!

Investing your time into good people is never time wasted, even though it takes you away from tasks that you perceive to be urgent.

And, in the long run, the more people you spend time training, the more people there are to help share the load and allow the leader to free up his time for more outreach and discipleship!

This post reminds me of another of those lessons that life has taught me.

In any job I have had in my life one thing can be said... I do a good job. My dad taught me to work hard and do a good job and I can say that my bosses have been pleased with me.

But there is a drawback to being the one that can do pretty much anything. It is assumed that you know how to do it even if no one has ever taught you.

That used to bug me beyond all end when I would be sent out to do something I had never done before. As usual, I figured it out and got it done.

Once, when I had become the "boss man" over much of the crew I had one particular worker who was pretty much good at whatever you sent him out to do.

I sent him out one day to do a job and he messed it up. I was getting on to him about the mess up and he said "You've never shown me how to do this... I did what I thought was right"

That shut me up fast. I apologized to him and we had an impromptu lesson right on the spot.

When we grow up Christian many of the things that we think are "givens" are not seen as such in other peoples minds.

When raising our children we consider so many things to be common knowledge and don't take the time to teach them things that seem, almost, a waste of time. But we still have to remember to take the time to teach what we thought everybody already knew.

A lot of these thoughts fall right in line with the concepts of Discipling and the hope of retention.