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Re: Growing Up Mennonite

It's interesting to see this thread back up and whatnot, from a few recent posts.

I've been enjoying some good Mennonite music, from the Mountain Anthem singers, their songs are all in English, and lately I've been on beachyam.org (it seems I get on an Anabaptist website tangent from time to time)...

Anyways, I don't know if this has been asked before or not, or perhaps there is something you could point me to to answer my question-

Brother Hoover, Can you explain the Old Order Mennonites difference from the Old Order Amish? These Old Order Mennonites seem more consevative than some Amish people I know, like the Beachy Amish, but then more conservative than any kind of Mennonite I can think of, whether it be Holdeman or Conservative Mennonite. Therefore, I am wondering where the Old Order Mennonites fit into all of this. Is it shunning that keeps them from being Amish? Do all Amish shun, but no Mennonites shun? Is there some other criteria that separates them? Do Old Order Mennonites have meetinghouses?

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It's interesting to see this thread back up and whatnot, from a few recent posts.

I've been enjoying some good Mennonite music, from the Mountain Anthem singers, their songs are all in English, and lately I've been on beachyam.org (it seems I get on an Anabaptist website tangent from time to time)...

Anyways, I don't know if this has been asked before or not, or perhaps there is something you could point me to to answer my question-

Brother Hoover, Can you explain the Old Order Mennonites difference from the Old Order Amish? These Old Order Mennonites seem more consevative than some Amish people I know, like the Beachy Amish, but then more conservative than any kind of Mennonite I can think of, whether it be Holdeman or Conservative Mennonite. Therefore, I am wondering where the Old Order Mennonites fit into all of this. Is it shunning that keeps them from being Amish? Do all Amish shun, but no Mennonites shun? Is there some other criteria that separates them? Do Old Order Mennonites have meetinghouses?

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Well Jacob Ammon was a Mennonite Bishop that broke away. The original issues were his desire to maintain strict church discipline. This included shunning which is a form social exclusion for those who find themselves excommunicated.
Today, almost all Amish shun, while most Mennonites do not. (the Holderman group I know does though)

Old Order Mennonites (and I mean "Horse & and Buggy" OOM) do have meeting houses. Many OOM do not have beards while most all Amish groups are required to wear them. Also, OOM embrace a bit more technology than the OOA. We had phones and electricity for major appliances. No electronics, cameras, radio, TV though. And distinctive dress - similar to Amish.
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Re: Growing Up Mennonite

Just curious, Bro. Hoovie -
Was it very emotionally hard on your parents/siblings when you chose not to live as OOM? Just wondering if they go through the same types of emotions as families who have someone leave UPC or a similar group? I've seen families that pretty much "shunned" those who left, much like the Amish. Thank the Lord my family didn't do that at all.
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Just curious, Bro. Hoovie -
Was it very emotionally hard on your parents/siblings when you chose not to live as OOM? Just wondering if they go through the same types of emotions as families who have someone leave UPC or a similar group? I've seen families that pretty much "shunned" those who left, much like the Amish. Thank the Lord my family didn't do that at all.
Yes. Very hard. I was too young to make the decision when I did (16). And If I had it to do over again I would wait till 18.

I really think most, or at least many, families are somewhat hurt and offended if the offspring don't choose the path they did.

That, I think is normal and not exclusive to UPC types, but rather speaks of what happens when strongly held beliefs are spurned by a new generation.

With the Amish it is a very special case though... speaking (more than necessity) eating or doing business with an excommunicated member puts you, yourself at risk of excommunication.
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