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12-31-2008, 10:49 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I definitely enjoy being a father.
But, if my children continue to live in a lifestyle that I feel is wrong, I can't continue to put my stamp of approval on it.
Scripture teaches us clearly that God will not "wink at ignorance forever, but commands us all to repent".
From this I can discern that God will send His spirit to draw us into truth, but if we refuse to move, and it's truly false doctrine that we're embracing, God will not put His stamp of approval on it, and will withdraw His presence.
So, I can't say the analogy is solid in this case.
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But even you left some loop holes in there, I dont think God moves as a "stamp of approval" as much as a "call of the lost".
I do agree that God will allow those not responding to fall as reprobates, but again, me and you know our children so we know when it becomes hopeless, God knows His children.
Again, I don't have all the answers, I just live in faith that God knows what He is doing.
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12-31-2008, 11:14 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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Does extra-biblical revelation really exist? Can there be Truth outside of he Word? Are there some writings or knowledge that God could not get those who put the Bible together to put into it? Is there salvation in any other name except the Name of Jesus, no matter how it is pronounced? Will a new "revelation" lead us away from the saving message of the gospel, ie. the death , burial, and resurrection?
If said 'revelation' negates or trys to nullify these verses it's not a 'revelation' from God:
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IMO IF it is a revelation from God it would draw you closer to Him and/or service to Him.
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12-31-2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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Why do you think God would put His blessing on false doctrine?
Not being argumentative, this has always intrigued me. Just curious to hear your thoughts.
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It begs a question then, define false doctrine?
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12-31-2008, 11:26 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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It begs a question then, define false doctrine?
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12-31-2008, 11:32 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
So, for the sake of further discussion, what do some think are hindrances to receiving "revelation" from God? 
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12-31-2008, 11:36 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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So, for the sake of further discussion, what do some think are hindrances to receiving "revelation" from God? |
1. Bound by tradition
2. Fear of man
3. Not willing to pay the price for a closer walk with God
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12-31-2008, 11:38 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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But even you left some loop holes in there, I dont think God moves as a "stamp of approval" as much as a "call of the lost".
I do agree that God will allow those not responding to fall as reprobates, but again, me and you know our children so we know when it becomes hopeless, God knows His children.
Again, I don't have all the answers, I just live in faith that God knows what He is doing.
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And, I agree with this. This sums it up pretty well.
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12-31-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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So, for the sake of further discussion, what do some think are hindrances to receiving "revelation" from God? |
Complacency (sp)
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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www.chrisscottonline.com
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12-31-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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It begs a question then, define false doctrine?
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I was referring to your statement that God moves on this in false doctrine who are unsaved.
What did you have in mind concerning false doctrine?
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12-31-2008, 11:42 AM
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Re: FEAR FACTOR: Pentecostal/Apostolic Style
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
I was referring to your statement that God moves on those in false doctrine who are unsaved.
What did you have in mind concerning false doctrine?
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I have to go to Physio but here is one thing also to consider.
There is a genuine move of God & a false "counterfeit" move!
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