Will you join the UPC NOW ????

scotty · #1 01-01-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

Hmmmmm Scotty, they'd have to start with their complete set of rules for the women folks.

They are to entrenched in their traditions to do that.

Then if they DID do that, next they'd have to drop two of their three REQUIREMENTS to earn salvation.

But Scotty, I allready am in a "upc church"

And you haven't been ostricized yet ??.. someone needs to excommunicate your pastor..

freeatlast · #2 01-01-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

And you haven't been ostricized yet ??.. someone needs to excommunicate your pastor..

Surely you jest ? I think he should get a medal at GC next year for standing for Apostolic truth ;-)

scotty · #3 01-01-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

Surely you jest ? I think he should get a medal at GC next year for standing for Apostolic truth ;-)

And he is licensed UPC ??? So then, you are in a "pocket of tolerance" ?

Does your church reach out to other UPC churches or are you in an area of churches with the same understanding ?

freeatlast · #4 01-01-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

And he is licensed UPC ??? So then, you are in a "pocket of tolerance" ?

Does your church reach out to other UPC churches or are you in an area of churches with the same understanding ?

Yes, pastor has a UPC ordination/card. We are 50 miles from our closet other upc church in our state.

We are a district that exercises tolerance, but we really don't do much with other upc churches.

We have sectional rallies but no one goes, hardly.

We do realize that we are "talked about" within the district because we no longer teach or enforce the upc tradional dress/hair standards.

scotty · #5 01-01-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

Yes, pastor has a UPC ordination/card. We are 50 miles from our closet other upc church in our state.

We are a district that exercises tolerance, but we really don't do much with other upc churches.

We have sectional rallies but no one goes, hardly.

We do realize that we are "talked about" within the district because we no longer teach or enforce the upc tradional dress/hair standards.

Thats awesome !!!! I would make it a point to go to the district rallies though. Just to let them know that you will take the high road and if they disagree they will have to take the low road.

Sam · #6 01-01-2009, 08:35 PM

Scotty commennted/asked:
Sooooo, your cool with any old Joe Blow having the ability to baptise ?
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this is an open book, who defines "godly living and christian ethics"

my answer (opinion)

I think any Christian can baptize any other Christian.

"godly living and christian ethics" would be in the eye of the beholder (the minister that went there to preach). In other words, a preacher can preach for whomever he thinks it's OK to preach for. It's up to him/her to decide, not an organizational official/bureaucrat.

scotty · #7 01-01-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

"godly living and christian ethics" would be in the eye of the beholder (the minister that went there to preach). In other words, a preacher can preach for whomever he thinks it's OK to preach for. It's up to him/her to decide, not an organizational official/bureaucrat.

Would you not be afraid that some of the sheep would end up dettermining the direction of the flock instead of the pastor whom God sent ? Or did I not understand what your saying ?

Steve Epley · #8 01-03-2009, 08:17 AM

I hate to be the one who rains on your party the UPC could care less what y'all want. Thye are making it fine without y'all same as they are without me.

Stephanas · #9 01-02-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

Yes, pastor has a UPC ordination/card. We are 50 miles from our closet other upc church in our state.

We are a district that exercises tolerance, but we really don't do much with other upc churches.

We have sectional rallies but no one goes, hardly.

We do realize that we are "talked about" within the district because we no longer teach or enforce the upc tradional dress/hair standards.

How does your pastor retain his credentials without signing the "Affirmation Statement?" (The affirmation statement specifically addresses traditional standards and requires members to pledge to practice, preach, and teach the standards spelled out in the Manual.)

freeatlast · #10 01-02-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephanas

How does your pastor retain his credentials without signing the "Affirmation Statement?" (The affirmation statement specifically addresses traditional standards and requires members to pledge to practice, preach, and teach the standards spelled out in the Manual.)

He simply crosses what he is didagreement with, like I'll uphold the manual.

Cross that out and write in Bible.

As long as he encloses a check for the $$$$ it has notr been questioned.