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[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Ron

Amen, and in today's day & age it can be with the same sex too.

What about emotional adultery?

If your reference is to the words of Christ... "he that looketh on a woman" then pretty much every woman can divorce her man and be justified.

Neither do I believe the law is justified giving the death penalty to one who "hates" his brother.

Christ demonstrated that God knows the intent of the heart...

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

If your reference is to the words of Christ... then pretty much every woman can divorce her man and be justified.

Neither do I believe the law is justified giving the death penalty to one who "hates" his brother.

Christ demonstrated that God knows the intent of the heart...

Interesting.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

What constitutes adultery? I believe if one partner commits adultery it doesn't mean an instant divorce. If the couples is willing to forgive and not do that anymore, they should be able to stay together.

If one of the parties is unwilling to work it out or doesn't want to give up "the other person", then I believe that other party is free to divorce.

Abuse - - 'nuff said.

Amen. Sometimes a husband and wife can navigate through an adultery. People are human and mistakes are made. A lot of times both had a part to play in an adultery situation. It can be ended and forgiven.

I'd also like to state that I believe that actual adultery is the grounds for divorce. Not adultery of the heart. Adultery of the heart is a lust that is present but technically unfulfilled. For example, if one finds that their spouse has been reading romance novels or looking at adult material I don't think it's grounds for divorce. Just my opinion.

Abuse... I believe it can be ended and forgiven but if perpetuated I'd advise the abused party to leave.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

If your reference is to the words of Christ... then pretty much every woman can divorce her man and be justified.

Neither do I believe the law is justified giving the death penalty to one who "hates" his brother.

Christ demonstrated that God knows the intent of the heart...

What? Just looking at a woman isn't the same as engaging in an emotional relationship? What do you mean, Stephen?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Amen. Sometimes a husband and wife can navigate through an adultery. People are human and mistakes are made. A lot of times both had a part to play in an adultery situation. It can be ended and forgiven.

I'd also like to state that I believe that actual adultery is the grounds for divorce. Not adultery of the heart. Adultery of the heart is a lust that is present but technically unfulfilled. For example, if one finds that their spouse has been reading romance novels or looking at adult material I don't think it's grounds for divorce. Just my opinion.

Abuse... I believe it can be ended and forgiven but if perpetuated I'd advise the abused party to leave.

I agree, it is better if they can to stay together, but then again, if the man is violent, the wife may not get a second chance to get away!

JMHO

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

What? Just looking at a woman isn't the same as engaging in an emotional relationship? What do you mean, Stephen?

HUH? I didn't say that.

Emotional relationships may not be good, neither is looking at one who is not your spouse with lust, however it is not grounds for divorce.

[Aquila]

I think we need to define Christ's statement:

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I don't think this is the same as looking at a woman with interest. For example, if a young man looks at a picture of a model with interest it's not lust, it's normal human interest. If a young girl imagines what it would be like to be with her science teacher she has a crush on or a boy she likes it's not lust it's normal human interest. Most who are governed by the Spirit would be terrified and never act if the opportunity arose. Lust in my opinion is something far more serious. Lust, for example, is when a man looks upon a specific woman with intent to actually pursue and act on gratifying his sexual desires. For example, if a man is looking at a woman sitting at a bar and begins to actually plot and determine as to how to hook up with her, that's lust.

I think we must be careful because we condemn far too many with blanket notions of condemning normal human interest.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

HUH? I didn't say that.

Emotional relationships may not be good, neither is looking at one who is not your spouse with lust, however it is not grounds for divorce.

Neither is grounds for divorce or just looking with lust?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think we need to define Christ's statement:

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I don't think this is the same as looking at a woman with interest. For example, if a young man looks at a picture of a model with interest it's not lust, it's normal human interest. If a young girl imagines what it would be like to be with her science teacher or a boy she likes it's not lust it's normal human interest. Lust in my opinion is something far more serious. Lust, for example, is when a man looks upon a specific woman with intent to actually pursue and act on gratifying his sexual desires. For example, if a man is looking at a woman sitting at a bar and begins to actually plot and determine as to how to hook up with her, it's lust.

Yes, I would agree with that, Aquila.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Neither is grounds for divorce or just looking with lust?

Neither is grounds IMO... If it were I think most men (and possibly most women) have been guilty.