Don't you miss the days of Pres. BC?

[MikeinAR]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

What does this mean:




2 Corinthians 6:14 (Whole Chapter)
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?




I wonder if this would apply:

1 Corinthians 5:11 (Whole Chapter)
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Your verse in 2 Corinthians is dealing with the "yoking" of believers and non-believers. Almost every commentary I've read on that scripture is in agreement that Paul was addressing believers marrying unbelievers.

Your verse from 1 Corinthians sounds applicable until you add in 1 Corinthians 5:9-10.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

Your verse in 2 Corinthians is dealing with the "yoking" of believers and non-believers. Almost every commentary I've read on that scripture is in agreement that Paul was addressing believers marrying unbelievers.

Your verse from 1 Corinthians sounds applicable until you add in 1 Corinthians 5:9-10.

Right! Verse 10 basically says, "These rules don't (can't) apply to those in the world, because you HAVE to go out into the world." (MissBrat's interpretation)

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Right! Verse 10 basically says, "These rules don't (can't) apply to those in the world, because you HAVE to go out into the world." (MissBrat's interpretation)

Agreed, I knew that when posting, the brotherhood should be held to a higher standard.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

Your verse in 2 Corinthians is dealing with the "yoking" of believers and non-believers. Almost every commentary I've read on that scripture is in agreement that Paul was addressing believers marrying unbelievers.

Your verse from 1 Corinthians sounds applicable until you add in 1 Corinthians 5:9-10.

14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.




Sounds like more then just marriage to me.

[MikeinAR]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.




Sounds like more then just marriage to me.

TS, you're certainly welcome to your interpretation of scripture.

While your busy worrying about getting to close to sinners, other people like Anthony Mangun will be out trying to pull sinners from the burning.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

TS, you're certainly welcome to your interpretation of scripture.

While your busy worrying about getting to close to sinners, other people like Anthony Mangun will be out trying to pull sinners from the burning.

What do those scripture mean then??

Originally Posted by Truthseeker
14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you





You mention something about verse 14 concerns marriage, how does the reconcile with the rest of the verses.

[MikeinAR]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

What do those scripture mean then??

Originally Posted by Truthseeker
14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you





You mention something about verse 14 concerns marriage, how does the reconcile with the rest of the verses.

IMO, the words used in those scriptures depict a yoking or a connection that is much more intimate or communal than a friendship.

Words like "yoke", "communion", "concord", and 'believeth with" is describing a more indepth, intimate spiritual type of relationship than a friendship. That part is clear when just reading the scripture or looking at word studies and commentaries.

Miss Brattfield is exactly right. She's making the point that there is a big difference in "believing with an infidel" and simply making yourself available through friendship to a sinner.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

IMO, the words used in those scriptures depict a yoking or a connection that is much more intimate or communal than a friendship.

Words like "yoke", "communion", "concord", and 'believeth with" is describing a more indepth, intimate spiritual type of relationship than a friendship. That part is clear when just reading the scripture or looking at word studies and commentaries.

Miss Brattfield is exactly right. She's making the point that there is a big difference in "believing with an infidel" and simply making yourself available through friendship to a sinner.

I understand, and if we are living the life friends around us will know and respect it. Getting buddy buddy with an adulterer is another story, IMO.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Aquila

President Clinton repented also. And, this thread is a very good example of how he's reaping the effects of his sin. It's destroyed his reputation and the memory of any good he accomplished.

Of course... at least he isn't responsible for the deaths of over 80,000 Iraqis (including women and children) as a result of an unnecessary invasion of choice based on fraudulent intelligence.

Clinton had extra-marital sex. Bush killed thousands in a very questionable war. Think about it.

Bush didn't kill thousands. I know you really don't like Bush. And I wonder if you are this passionate about unnecessary deaths as the 348,000 + daily abortions here in America? That YOUR favorite new president made the first things he did in office, make it where the government will pay for international abortions. Don't think America won't pay for this atrocity.

Originally Posted by Aquila

A lot of people supported it. Because nobody dared to challenge the Administration after 9/11. I remember Bush talking about invading Iraq and I looked at my wife and asked, "Why is he invading Iraq... we need to go after Osama." Oh well...

Yes, the both sinned. However, I don't think anyone would agree that an extra-marital affair is as terrible as launching a highly questionable war based on highly questionable intelligence wherein tens of thousands of innocent people were killed.

It seems like we give a free pass to the Republicans, and crucify Democrats. Yes, Clinton sinned with women... David was an adulterer and a womanizer too. Men are men, and the power of an office brings a degree of temptation a lot of men can't handle. But I don't think it compares. That's just my opinion bro.

Point is Clinton repented. I highly doubt Bush will come clean with the situation we're in today.

Originally Posted by Aquila

President Bill Clinton repented and offered a public apology, did President Bush?

Bush has nothing to repent of that I see. The Republicans AND Democrats agreed to this war.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Obama is a "Christian". He's attended church and says that he believes in Jesus. I'm not going to judge another man's servant. Same with Bush, Bush is a Christian too. Both Bush and Obama are men, they aren't perfect. They are politicians. One thing I will not do is say that someone isn't a Christian when they've professed faith in Christ.

I think Clinton was a so/so President. Some good things some bad things. I know this much, I wouldn't have a job today if not for FMLA legislation that Clinton signed. Also please note that it was the Clintons who pressed for this coverage to be extended to the military.

Obama is a lip Christian not a practicing Christian. No Christian can promote abortions or gay agendas.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Let's face it, from where I stand it looks like you can't be Christian anymore unless you're Republican. If you're not Republican, don't even consider Christ, you will not be welcomed, your faith will be questioned, and you will be slandered.

What nonesense. Being a Republican doesn't make you a christian anymore than being a Democrat make you a sinner. There are both in both parties.