Don't you miss the days of Pres. BC?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Truthseeker,
Do you think we should fine, imprison, or possibly even stone fornicators?
[stoning mostly in the cases when the fornicator was engaged to be married to someone else]

I ask the question when folks (like you) seem to propose that we, the righteous-by-faith called out ones, attempt to regulate what secular governments do concerning the unbeliever's lifestyle.

Is there a bigger perspective here that might better serve how we direct our energies?

Has nothinhg to do with granting gays marriage licenses.

Does not the more immoral a society come bring greater strongholds and more vileness?

So should the govvernment stay out of how many wives a man can have? How dare them have laws against beastality. Who are they to say a 16year old girl can't have sex with a 45 yeard old man. Who are ther to regulate these folks lives??? What nerve!

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Has nothinhg to do with granting gays marriage licenses.

Does not the more immoral a society come bring greater strongholds and more vileness?

So should the govvernment stay out of how many wives a man can have? How dare them have laws against beastality. Who are they to say a 16year old girl can't have sex with a 45 yeard old man. Who are ther to regulate these folks lives??? What nerve!

So, whether you or I like it, we are citizens of a representative government, elected by a majority vote of those choosing to cast a vote. The voting population is from among a constituency that has a supermajority of persons who are secular, humanistic, unbelieving, heathens.

What is the point TS?

Are you teaching that those of us who have been invited to "come out from among them and be ye seperate" should return to where we came from and incite political zeal, lead a revolution, establish our own break-away Christian governed nation?

If not, then we are simply that small light that is increasingly visible as the darkness becomes greater and greater; not as warriors, but as lifeboat operators.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

So, whether you or I like it, we are citizens of a representative government, elected by a majority vote of those choosing to cast a vote. The voting population is from among a constituency that has a supermajority of persons who are secular, humanistic, unbelieving, heathens.

What is the point TS?

Are you teaching that those of us who have been invited to "come out from among them and be ye seperate" should return to where we came from and incite political zeal, lead a revolution, establish our own break-away Christian governed nation?

If not, then we are simply that small light that is increasingly visible as the darkness becomes greater and greater; not as warriors, but as lifeboat operators.

First, MAJORITY of voters are against gay marriage, so the lawmakers/judges that are fighting for gay rights DO NOT represent the majority.

You know what's funny, Cali voted against gay marraige but Obama carried Cali, kinda strange.

Are you saying Christians should not be involved in politics, run for office or vote?? And should they lay aside morality if they do so???


BTW You didn't address this:



So should the govvernment stay out of how many wives a man can have? How dare them have laws against beastality. Who are they to say a 16year old girl can't have sex with a 45 yeard old man. Who are ther to regulate these folks lives??? What nerve!

[tbpew]

TS, do you propose we incite a revolt?
If the Cali legislators went against the will of the majority (even more contrary since CA is a state governed by referendum rather than representation), the consequence should be that they (legislators) are removed from office by whatever means the public will can (or chooses to) engage.

Voting? Political zealotry? We should all follow what the example of our master and his leading.

God is still God even though women are being brutally and physchologically ravedged through 'rape as a weapon' in the Belgium Congo.

TS, I can not answer your question:
"So should the govvernment stay out of how many wives a man can have? How dare them have laws against beastality. Who are they to say a 16year old girl can't have sex with a 45 yeard old man. Who are ther to regulate these folks lives??? What nerve!"

To provide a true witness I would also need to have an answer why goverments (authorities) turn away from brutality comitted against the weakest citizens. God's purposes and potency is not predicated on the strength of my arms. Should we all take up weapons and go hunt down and kill the rapists? Choose your activism....Jesus certainly seemed to.

If your calling is to be a voice against all things ungodly and unjust, maybe there are better forums for your calling.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

TS, do you propose we incite a revolt?
If the Cali legislators went against the will of the majority (even more contrary since CA is a state governed by referendum rather than representation), the consequence should be that they (legislators) are removed from office by whatever means the public will can (or chooses to) engage.

Voting? Political zealotry? We should all follow what the example of our master and his leading.

God is still God even though women are being brutally and physchologically raved by 'rape as a weapon' in the Congo.

TS, I can not answer your question:
"So should the govvernment stay out of how many wives a man can have? How dare them have laws against beastality. Who are they to say a 16year old girl can't have sex with a 45 yeard old man. Who are ther to regulate these folks lives??? What nerve!"

To provide a true witness I would also need to have an answer why goverments (authorities) turn away from brutality comitted against the weakest citizens exists. God's purposes and potency is not predicated on the strength of my arms. Should we all take up weapons and go hunt down and kill the rapists? Choose your activism....Jesus certainly seemed to.

If your calling is to be voice against injustice, maybe there are better forums for your cause.

I'm not advocating a revolt. never implied that.

I notice you can not answer if my question about government regulating what I listed but you imply they shouldn't regulate against gay marriage. Amazing indeed.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I'm not advocating a revolt. never implied that.

I notice you can not answer if my question about government regulating what I listed but you feel they shouldn't regulate against gay marriage. Amazing indeed.

TS,
you're not a guy big on specific answers either.
I have shared my perspective within the light of the reality of a present world.

If you are amazed...be amazed.

If this general topical concern pertains to the Kingdom of our Lord, legions of his angels will fight.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

TS,
your not a guy big on specific answers either.
I have shared my perspective within the light of the reality of a present world.

If you are amazed...be amazed.

If this general topical concern pertains to the Kingdom of our Lord, legions of his angels will fight.

I run from no question! lol

On forums it easy to not cover all the corners, I know.

But don't understand how you can not answer about regulating some things but not marriage.