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01-29-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
No.
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01-29-2009, 01:26 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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you win the prize cindy, you are correct mam, lol,dt 
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01-29-2009, 01:47 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
DT and TRF you say it is not possible. Explain then how a person can speak in tongues and it be from God and have a spirit cast out at the same time?
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01-29-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by Esther
DT and TRF you say it is not possible. Explain then how a person can speak in tongues and it be from God and have a spirit cast out at the same time?
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that is assuming someone really is speaking in tongues and or really has a demonic spirit
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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01-29-2009, 02:09 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by Esther
DT and TRF you say it is not possible. Explain then how a person can speak in tongues and it be from God and have a spirit cast out at the same time?
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That's anecdotal stuff.
I go by what I see in the word, not what some preacher says. There are lots of things I've heard said, by preachers that I have respect for... but if I cant line it up with scripture, I cant just accept it as being truth.
I'm not going to definitively say it's not possible. But I'll definitely say there's nothing in scripture that tells me it is.
And if someone is going to tell me it can happen, they've got to do better than telling me there are "multiple rooms" within man. I don't see any scripture for that either.
I'm just sayin'...
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01-29-2009, 02:19 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
That's anecdotal stuff.
I go by what I see in the word, not what some preacher says. There are lots of things I've heard said, by preachers that I have respect for... but if I cant line it up with scripture, I cant just accept it as being truth.
I'm not going to definitively say it's not possible. But I'll definitely say there's nothing in scripture that tells me it is.
And if someone is going to tell me it can happen, they've got to do better than telling me there are "multiple rooms" within man. I don't see any scripture for that either.
I'm just sayin'...
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Well I respect what you say here. But I don't think we have arrived at knowing and understanding all of scripture. But it is definitely our guideline. However, I don't think every single thing we will or have encountered is in the scriptures.
Disclaimer: I have not personally seen a person delivered from a spirit that also had the Holy Ghost. And again remember we are NOT talking about being POSSESSED of a spirit. But possessing a spirit. Hope that makes sense.
As to the terminology of the different rooms, that is the way it was explained to me and made sense. And this was by UPC ministers that have actually dealt with this.
Two of them have dealt with a lot of this including ministers having this situation.
When I think of powerful men/women of God I think of them as having more of God than a non-powerful man or woman. I don't know any other way to express what I am trying to say.
But I don't think we are all equal in the power of God. Therefore, I would express that as one having more of God or the Holy Ghost ever how you want to express it.
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01-29-2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by Esther
DT and TRF you say it is not possible. Explain then how a person can speak in tongues and it be from God and have a spirit cast out at the same time?
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To begin with..a lot of people who do delivery stuff are flakes and fakes.
To end with, a person as far from God as one can get can speak in tongues. I did while casting. They sure weren't Holy Ghost tongues tyvm.
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01-29-2009, 04:17 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
To begin with..a lot of people who do delivery stuff are flakes and fakes.
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Yeah, I had a UPS delivery guy who was pretty flaky.
And the Fedex delivery guy seemed kinda strange too.
Huh? What?
not that kind of delivery stuff?
Oh... Deliverance stuff?
OK, my bad. 
Love u, Sister Nak.
Just teasing.
...Put down that 2 x 4 
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01-29-2009, 04:37 PM
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Re: Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
Yeah, I had a UPC delivery guy who was pretty flaky.
And the Fedex delivery guy seemed kinda strange too.
Huh? What?
not that kind of delivery stuff?
Oh... Deliverance stuff?
OK, my bad.
Love u, Sister Nak.
Just teasing.
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LOL! That's just funny!
You caught me in that for sure. I didn't think that all the way through, obviously.
So yeah, say deliverance where I say delivery and it makes more sense. lol
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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