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Old 01-29-2009, 03:22 PM
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But again remember we are not talking about a person that is possessed by spirits but someone that is possessing a spirit.
And the difference would be... what ?

(now you've really lost me. )


Does the bible make a distinction between the two?
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Can a person have the holy ghost and be demon possessed
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And the difference would be... what ?

(now you've really lost me. )

Does the bible make a distinction between the two?
Yes. I believe it does. You have several types of spirits mentioned in the Bible. You have God (who is a spirit), the holy angels, the dead (both righteous and unrighteous), fallen angels, and unclean spirits. The two types of evil spirits are fallen angels and unclean spirits. Fallen angels "can" possess a person but generally do not. Unclean spirits insanely desire to possess a host to fulfill their lusts and they are typically what we deal with on a regular basis, especially in the realm of possession.

That's my understanding.

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Old 01-29-2009, 03:47 PM
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Yes. I believe it does. You have several types of spirits mentioned in the Bible. You have God (who is a spirit), the holy angels, the dead (both righteous and unrighteous), fallen angels, and unclean spirits. The two types of evil spirits are fallen angels and unclean spirits. Fallen angels "can" possess a person but generally do not. Unclean spirits insanely desire to possess a host to fulfill their lusts and they are typically what we deal with on a regular basis, especially in the realm of possession.

That's my understanding.

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2 things....

a/ That doesn't really answer the original question of "is there a difference between a person being spirit-possessed, and them possessing a spirit?".

b/ The distinction you're making between "fallen angels and unclean spirits" seems artificial.

Correct me if I'm mistaken on this but: What were those "unclean spirits" before they became "unclean sprits"? Weren't they angels... before they fell... thus they're fallen angels?
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2 things....

a/ That doesn't really answer the original question of "is there a difference between a person being spirit-possessed, and them possessing a spirit?".

b/ The distinction you're making between "fallen angels and unclean spirits" seems artificial.

Correct me if I'm mistaken on this but: What were those "unclean spirits" before they became "unclean sprits"? Weren't they angels... before they fell... thus they're fallen angels?
Let me try and explain it this way. If a person is possessed they are not in control of their life. The demons control what they do, as the gadrene that was in the graveyard not in his own mind.

A person possessing a spirit could be a person that has a spirit of fear. The spirit of fear doesn't make them go and do anything they don't want to do. It may prevent them from doing something that want to do.

And it would probably be more acturate to say the spirit of fear is oppressing them than them possesing the spirit.

But you can't be POSSESSED and have the Holy Ghost in my opinion. But I think you can have a spirit attached to you. Whether you want to say by oppression or possession.
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no because how can you have the spirit of GOD and spirit of the Devil at same time
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no because how can you have the spirit of GOD and spirit of the Devil at same time
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I think not.

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2 things....

a/ That doesn't really answer the original question of "is there a difference between a person being spirit-possessed, and them possessing a spirit?".
Ah, I see. I think there is a difference. In my experience, people who are "spirit-possessed" (demon possessed) are under the complete control of the possessing spirit. Then there are those who "possess a spirit" because it's gained a stronghold in their spirit, typically through sin. I believe, based on my experience, that the spirit(s) that a person may possess will work to oppress the individual until it gains complete possession.

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b/ The distinction you're making between "fallen angels and unclean spirits" seems artificial.

Correct me if I'm mistaken on this but: What were those "unclean spirits" before they became "unclean sprits"? Weren't they angels... before they fell... thus they're fallen angels?
No. I don't believe they were... therefore I don't believe they are.
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Ah, I see. I think there is a difference. In my experience, people who are "spirit-possessed" (demon possessed) are under the complete control of the possessing spirit. Then there are those who "possess a spirit" because it's gained a stronghold in their spirit, typically through sin. I believe that the spirit(s) that a person may possess will work to oppress the individual until it gains complete possession.
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