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Old 02-19-2009, 07:01 PM
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Re: Bishop SC Johnson

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But Bishop Johnson's preaching did agree with the written word?

What formula did Bishop Johnson insist on in performing the baptism ritual?

Martha: Sam, I wouldn't call it a formula. I don't believe Jesus Christ ever referred to his name as a "formula." But He did insist that His name be recognized, honored as no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved, and taken in water baptism and spirit baptism so His name is of premiere importance. For instance, you call yourself Sam; Sam who? What distinguishes your name, Sam, from every other person in the world named Sam? You've read the book of Acts. You know how the apostles baptized. You know the commandment. Bishop Johnson preached this same thing. And you also know that Bishop Johnson preached that Father Son and Holy Ghost is not the "name" of the Son of God who is also God Almighty.
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Martha: Sam, I wouldn't call it a formula. I don't believe Jesus Christ ever referred to his name as a "formula." But He did insist that His name be recognized, honored as no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved, and taken in water baptism and spirit baptism so His name is of premiere importance. For instance, you call yourself Sam; Sam who? What distinguishes your name, Sam, from every other person in the world named Sam? You've read the book of Acts. You know how the apostles baptized. You know the commandment. Bishop Johnson preached this same thing. And you also know that Bishop Johnson preached that Father Son and Holy Ghost is not the "name" of the Son of God who is also God Almighty.
Martha,
I know the words "Father" and "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are not names but neither are "Lord" and "Christ." It is my understanding, and I may be mistaken, that Bishop Johnson insisted that all three words "Lord Jesus Christ" had to be spoken at water baptism and that if the title "Lord" or the title "Christ" was not used, the person had to be rebaptized using the threefold formula "Lord Jesus Christ." Am I correct in this or do you not know for sure? What words have you heard spoken at baptisms?
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