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Old 03-13-2009, 09:24 PM
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Re: He Was More than Just a Man

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Luke 1:35
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

John 10:36
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God ?

Matt 16:16-17
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


Let's just simply let the Scripture speak for itself. Jesus is without a doubt, the Son of God! Some seem to shy away from this truth. Others want to say, "Oh I know it says that but we really know he is ........" [Whatever it is they are trying to prove]
Jesus told Peter, that the revelation is that, he indeed is the Son of God!
I'm afraid we "oneness" believers are close to being like the Mormons and JW's with extra-Biblical "revelations" we conjured up somewhere. This post won't go over well with some but that's alright the Truth will "dawn" eventually on them. To glibly pass over the truth that there is a Father and there is a Son in the Word, is to miss the glorious truth that God wants to perform in us as sons of God. This is what this Grand Plan of God is all about.

Raven
Brother,

She would agree with every Scripture You've cited.
She would also say that they don't prove He is God.
Only that He is the 'Son of God.'

Thank You for the time You've taken to add to the conversation.

Nina
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:04 PM
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Brother,

She would agree with every Scripture You've cited.
She would also say that they don't prove He is God.
Only that He is the 'Son of God.'

Thank You for the time You've taken to add to the conversation.

Nina
Ask her what does being the Son of God mean and then what does being the Son of Man mean?
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:43 PM
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Brother,

She would agree with every Scripture You've cited.
She would also say that they don't prove He is God.
Only that He is the 'Son of God.'

Thank You for the time You've taken to add to the conversation.

Nina
If we can only find scripture declaring him [Jesus] to be the Son of God then that is what we have to accept and believe that he is. I'm sure someone will come up with a scripture you might use. But scripture is very emphatic as to what he is "called": The Son of God.

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Old 03-13-2009, 10:50 PM
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If we can only find scripture declaring him [Jesus] to be the Son of God then that is what we have to accept and believe that he is. I'm sure someone will come up with a scripture you might use. But scripture is very emphatic as to what he is "called": The Son of God.

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Are you saying that You can be saved if You don't believe that Jesus is God?

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Old 03-13-2009, 10:55 PM
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Give me scripture to support your statement and I'll believe. The scripture is all that I will believe or accept! I'm teachable just show me.

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Old 03-13-2009, 11:00 PM
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Give me scripture to support your statement and I'll believe. The scripture is all that I will believe or accept! I'm teachable just show me.

Raven

Would You go so far as to say that Jesus was NOT God?
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:09 PM
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Would You go so far as to say that Jesus was NOT God?
It's not what I would say but what does the scripture say? I will declare him to be whatever the scripture calls him. I can do nothing else! I know this, he's "one of a kind". The word says that he is the "only begotten son"!
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:11 PM
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Re: He Was More than Just a Man

Do you have a copy of the tract/chart available from the UPC Publishing House called "Wheel of Prophecy"? It shows scriptures showing that Jehovah is Shepherd, King, Creator, etc and that He is God and then it shows that Jesus is Shepherd, King, Creator, etc. and that He is God. That might help.

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Old 03-14-2009, 09:13 AM
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Do you have a copy of the tract/chart available from the UPC Publishing House called "Wheel of Prophecy"? It shows scriptures showing that Jehovah is Shepherd, King, Creator, etc and that He is God and then it shows that Jesus is Shepherd, King, Creator, etc. and that He is God. That might help.

See the attachment with this post (if it works)

I have one of these.
Thanks for the reminder.
I will study it.

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